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Anonymous said…
The links are all still there. Check your browser, douchebag.
Word verification is ‘flayinge’. That’s what lefties do to you every time your stupid enough to write a fucking post.
7:42 PM
Anonymous said…
Oh, and half your links don’t even work. Who reads ‘the currency lad’ any more.
7:50 PM
J F Beck said…
Yes, the link is still there but the wording has changed with Jeremy no longer claiming to write at Grods.
7:57 PM
Anonymous said…
Exciting stuff, Becky. You think maybe he no longer writes at Grods?
7:59 PM
J F Beck said…
Don’t know; don’t care, but some people will. You for one.
8:02 PM
Margo’s Maid said…
This is of concern. The blogosphere requires a certain amount of fuckwittery so that it may achieve balance.
8:03 PM
Anonymous said…
There’s an ongoing GFC, and a scandal enveloping Rudd as we speak.
But Jeremy Sear has changed the wording of his links bar. Stop the press.
8:08 PM
J F Beck said…
So stop getting involved in trivialities and go comment about issues that matter.
8:11 PM
VB said…
It looks like Jeremy is the only one to be severing links: the Grods lot still have him as a sometimes contributor on their About page.
8:57 PM
Mehaul said…
Gutless and I mean the extremely GUTLESS anonymous still flings poo from the safe distance of a no name anonymous turd. What a jerk!!
Angry, childish, luke warm, friendless, lonely, vapid, lonely, pathetic, underperformed, surrounded by fools – ANONYMOUS.
Keep up the predictable waffle idiot. Your predicability is becoming the best humour on this blog. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
9:00 PM
Anonymous said…
Beck posts 7.13 and within 30 mins some sad sack dribbles his attack on it. It’s not that the blogs would miss them if they all just stopped blogging, Margo, it’s that they would lose all reason to live.
9:21 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
This is of concern. The blogosphere requires a certain amount of fuckwittery so that it may achieve balance.
Don’t worry, Margot’s Maid, while you’ve still got your oars in the water then I think we’ve met our quota.
Beck, Jeremy was only a very occasional contributor to Grods and he’s probably got his hands full running his own blog and contributing to Pure Poison. Only yesterday he was commenting actively at Grods in response to a post of mine. Hardly a “link severed” – unless you’re grasping for a story that ain’t there.
9:42 PM
Margo’s Maid said…
So long as you meet your quota, Britches.
Jez often does have his hands full, now you mention it – or at least he tries very hard.
10:06 PM
Anonymous said…
With friends like you, Gread, who needs enemies?
12:09 AM
Anonymous said…
Interestingly the dearth of PP content coincides with an article by ex Crikey hack, Christian Kerr flaying the worst of the blogsphere.
No surprise, however, that Tobias ignored some stinging Kerr appraisals clearly aimed at PP. Ouch.
1:17 AM
nic said…
Thanks for the heads up Anon, the article by Kerr was great. I liked the Lord of the Flies analogy, though this particularly stuck out:
Then there is the group that provides the cyberworld’s answer to the sad sacks you see on the street holding intense conversations with no one in particular.
Thanks to the marvels of the modern age they can now call themselves “citizen journalists”
I wonder if Brid git has any ideas as to who he may have been talking about?
8:56 AM
Anonymous said…
Anon 1:17 the Kerr’s phrase “online shit-sheet, the internet equivalent of the anonymous lies, smears and distortions ” is an accurate discription of Jeremy Sear’s writings.
9:28 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Interestingly the dearth of PP content coincides with an article by ex Crikey hack, Christian Kerr flaying the worst of the blogsphere. No surprise, however, that Tobias ignored some stinging Kerr appraisals clearly aimed at PP. Ouch.
And where exactly does Kerr specifically name PP or even impute that he’s referring to it? Sounds to me like he’s referring to any number of different blogs. I think you’re engaging in a bit of wishful interpretation there, Anon.
Kerr does make a couple of good points with which I agree, particularly that the Australian blogosphere is too focused on the mainstream media. Unlike the high quality blogging of JF Beck, which is instead too focused on bloggers who are too focused on the mainstream media.
12:17 PM
Anonymous said…
Gread, get on it.
You’re boring.
12:38 PM
J F Beck said…
Yes, I can only hope my blogging is someday as relevant and meaningful as Bridgit’s. You know, really highbrow stuff like pointing to the prominence of Stephanie Rice’s pudenda (man-pouch alert!) or Bridgit’s warning to prospective peggers that her mouth farts and shits render her dangerous.
1:41 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
I wasn’t talking up my own, I was talking yours down. Is this the only way you can respond to criticism: by trying to smear those who are criticising you?
You’re ultimately a pretty feeble character, aren’t you Beck.
Anon@12.38PM, back to Iain, he’s eagerly awaiting your comments.
2:03 PM
J F Beck said…
You’ve got some strange activity going on in your head there Bridgit; linking to your writing is not an attempt to smear.
If I wanted to smear you I’d fabricate something about you; like referring to you as a stalker.
2:22 PM
cosmicjester said…
“Gread, get on it.
You’re boring.”
Ohhh Snap, Bridget you’ve been served.
2:33 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
cosmic, it’s painful visiting here and being flayed by Beck’s vacuous rejoinders and the frog chorus of his anonymites. It’s like diving into a vat of angry cotton wool.
2:53 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Whoops, silly me, cue biting retort:
“Bridgit cotton wool is an inanimate object, how can it be “angry”? You fail.”
2:54 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
What is painful, in a side splitting laughter sort of way is YOU complaining about anonymous commentators when you have so often said how much you support anonymous posting on the net.3:00 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Where am I complaining, Iain? While there are Google-happy Scotch-posting housebound weirdos like you floating around, then there’ll always be people who can do nothing else but post anonymously.
3:12 PM
Iain Hall said…
You are clearly complaining in your comment time stamped “2.53” on this thread and also you were whining about it on the previous thread where you said:
This is what you encourage, Beck, the bilious, vexatious character assassins sniping from behind their anonymity.10:07 PM
Now that is two strikes, that I have noticed, and I am sure that if I searched other threads here at Beck’s blog that I would find more whining about anonymous posters from you.
There is word for your obvious confusion on the issue of anonymity and it starts with “H”.:lol:3:34 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
I know you migrants have difficulties with the English language, “Iain”, so I’ll make it clear for you: I was not complaining at 2.53pm in this thread. And my remarks in the other thread were in relation to a different matter altogether, i.e. defamatory imputations about someone who blogs under their real name.
Of course since you don’t blog under your real name, Ian, and you certainly don’t work, the magnitude of making such allegations has probably escaped you.
3:44 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
And my remarks in the other thread were in relation to a different matter altogether, i.e. defamatory imputations about someone who blogs under their real name.More hypocrisy from you! You did precisely what you complain of others doing here time and time again like the way you attacked Tim Blair and Andrew Bolt
Of course since you don’t blog under your real name, Ian, and you certainly don’t work, the magnitude of making such allegations has probably escaped you.
“Iain” is my real name, it appears upon all of my legal documents, my driving licence, my marriage certificate, the deeds to my house, now just because you found it spelt incorrectly while you were stalking me does not support you bullshit claim here. But then such claims are typical of you, you find one piece of so called ” evidence” that fits your conspiracy theory and it will be “holy writ” forever.
4:06 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
now just because you found it spelt incorrectly while you were stalking me…
Can I borrow that ‘H’ word you were throwing around before? I think I might need it.
4:11 PM
ARIII said…
Actually Brigit,
You were complaining about anonymous posting. For some reason, it is a common complaint among the less intelligent hangers on at club Sear.
You are against racism – unless it suits your purpose to use racist language.
You are against bigotry – unless it suits your purpose to employ bigotry.
You support anonymous comments – unless the anonymous person doesn’t support your viewpoint.
You are against the demeaning treatment of sex workers – except when you are stuck for an insult.
You support the rights of the unemployed – unless the unemployed person disagrees with you.
I don’t think there is anyone among your crowd who doesn’t regularly behave this way.
4:13 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
ARIII, I see it’s sundown and someone has unlatched your coffin. And you’ve begun by providing a comprehensive outline of what I’m ‘for’ and ‘against’, though much of it you’ve gotten utterly and hopelessly wrong. Then again, I don’t think there is anyone among your crowd who doesn’t regularly behave this way.
4:20 PM
ARIII said…
Bridgit,
If you think it is blogging under a fake name for someone called Ian Hall to blog under the name Iain Hall then you are crazy, no two ways about it.
You may as well complain that every Tom, Dick and Harry are liars too.
4:23 PM
J F Beck said…
Careful guys, make Gread any crankier and she’ll revert to the “defamatory imputation” fall-back bullshit.
4:24 PM
ARIII said…
‘ARIII, I see it’s sundown and someone has unlatched your coffin.’
A vampire insult, what the hell?
‘though much of it you’ve gotten utterly and hopelessly wrong.’
So your excuse is that you always behave like a racist bigot? That the times when you proclaimed a progressive viewpoint where the times you were actually lying? I don’t think you’ve thought this through.
‘Then again, I don’t think there is anyone among your crowd who doesn’t regularly behave this way.’
Ah yes, the Pee Wee Herman defence. ‘I know you are but what am I?’. I’m not surprised that this is the best argument you can muster.
4:29 PM
ARIII said…
Is that defamatory imputation as in suggesting that a female Olympic swimmer is actually a male drug cheat?
4:31 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
ARIII, as has been stated many times before, nobody really cares that Iain Hall is a migrant, a stay-at-home husband, a grammatical incompetent or even a Queenslander. But while he continues to sling barbs at others, as in his laughable post today, then he’s fair game for any kind of mockery.
I wasn’t aware of the “Pee Wee Herman” defence, but since you’re obviously such a big fan of his, I defer to your greater knowledge of the subject.
Beck, how does it feel when you put pissy little posts together to slur someone’s reputation – and you then claim that no, sir, you were not actually trying to slur their reputation – I was just, you know, blogging and stuff. Does it leave a sour taste in your mouth?
4:36 PM
Mica said…
I know you migrants have difficulties with the English language
Whaaa??
Aren’t you leftie Moonbats supposed to beating up the people who grew up here and defending MIGRANTS to the teeth??
Geez, Bridge. Pick a line and stick with it.
4:40 PM
Iain Hall said…
Sling Barbs at others EH?
When it comes to “slinging barbs” You have been very handy with the throwing arm yourself Bridgit , as have your pals at Grods, now that is something to celebrate on planet leftard but when I give you a little of your own back you whine like a baby and all but suggest that I am the blogging Anti Christ. You once again deserve to be called the hypocrite that you most certainly are on the issue of blogging behaviour.
4:49 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Mica, my own position on immigration has never shifted. The great contradiction with Iain Hall is that he’s forever calling for limits on migration when he himself is a migrant, hence I and others like to skewer him with his own crap.
Iain you are not the blogging Antichrist, you are a very naughty boy.
5:05 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, I have to give you credit. If I were a liar, fraud and hypocrite like you I’d not move on to racism. People might think less of you.
5:06 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
I guess I could always post anonymously and, like, absolve myself from responsibility for what I say.
5:08 PM
Anonymous said…
Yeah an alis is really different.
5:09 PM
nic said…
Well done Bridgit, a feminist who tells men to stick their hands down a woman’s pants to see if she is a drug taking transvestite. How envious you all are. Judging by your photos, I no longer wonder why.
5:12 PM
Anonymous said…
alias*
5:16 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Nic, you should hop across to The Onion, they’re running a story about Shawn Johnson being put down after breaking her leg in a gymnastics meet. It’s diabolical, man, what are those lunatics thinking? Get over there and vent your spleen.
Anon, my alis (sic) has been in use for three years and has never been used by anyone else – except for Iain, when he was pretending to be me on his lesbian Nazi blog.
5:18 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Anyway, nice fun playing but dinner is beckoning – we’re having rib eye with caramelised balsamic onions, good leftist fare. Ciao.
5:20 PM
Anonymous said…
Do you even know what an alias is?
5:21 PM
nic said…
Bridgit: oh, quick look over there….
So, as Pauline said, please explain.
5:45 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
I guess I could always post anonymously and, like, absolve myself from responsibility for what I say.Yeah like you are posting under your real name now…
Hypocrite5:58 PM
J F Beck said…
For those unfamiliar with the saga, Bridgit’s “defamatory imputations” crapola refers to this, where implied threats of legal action — much condemned by Grodsters when pursued by a righty — were leveled.
Notice how Gread then moved from “defamatory imputations” to “pissy posts”?
Like a nagging rectal itch Gread is best ignored: keep scratching at it and it won’t go away.
6:29 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Do you even know what an alias is?
I’m not sure you do, since you had difficulty typing it.
Yeah like you are posting under your real name now… Hypocrite
Sure thing, Iain (who formerly masqueraded as a female calling ‘herself’ “niceperson”)
Like a nagging rectal itch Gread is best ignored: keep scratching at it and it won’t go away.
Suffer from many of those do you JF?
6:42 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, you are a thug and a liar. Get used to that fact.
6:51 PM
J F Beck said…
Got one right now, Bridgit. Lucky it’s only superficial.
6:52 PM
J F Beck said…
Bridgit is, like most of the Grodsters, a try-hard thug.
6:56 PM
Sergei Nechaev said…
And Beck is just a try-hard Blair.
10:01 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit Gread
When the lie about my real name fails you drag out another falsehood:Sure thing, Iain (who formerly masqueraded as a female calling ‘herself’ “niceperson”)
While I readily admit that when I first started blogging I used the pseudonym “Niceperson” (for about three months) I never specified my gender at all YOU assumed that I was a woman because I wrote about domestic life and raising my children. This was simply because despite your “progressive” pretensions you can’t accept the reality of a man doing a role swap with his partner and taking over the more traditional female role in the family.
Now if you want to raise the issue of people pretending to be a gender other than their own there is the little matter of your own pretence at my blog that you were a male English teacher. You kept up that pretence for about two years until I rumbled you So once again you proves that your only “talents” are that of lying and deceiving for malicious purposes. which sort of sums up your blogging “career” doesn’t it?
Readers with the intestinal fortitude to get through the entire correspondence (that I link to above) will undoubtedly notice how you tried at first to bully me and then you tried to blackmail me once your sock puppet was discovered, which shows just how far down below the moral high ground you actually stand.4:06 AM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit. You really need a values check. It is not progressive to use terms for sex workers as an insult. It is not progressive to be critical of families who role swap. It is not progessive to use migrant as an insult. Notice that neither Blair nor Bolt would ever make statements like that? That’s because the left don’t have a monopoly on progressive values.
6:31 AM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit has no values, well no fixed values anyway.
10:11 AM
Bukharin said…
No, Iain did indeed pretend to be a housewife under the pseudonym of ‘niceperson’, and even said as much to his erstwhile comrade and ally, Dave Tan, at the time.
Iain Hall – liar, stalker, criminal, bully.
10:42 AM
J F Beck said…
Bukharin, I do not know the full history of the ongoing Iain Hall vs Grods et al war but am confident that both sides are guilty of monumental lapses in judgement. Regardless, the continual bickering is of no interest to me.
Further, unless you can provide proof that Iain hall is a convicted criminal I am forced to conclude that your claim he’s a stalker and criminal is bullshit.
11:00 AM
Mica said…
Really gonna have to get Bridge a Moonbattery For Dummies manual.
What the hell are you doing eating rib-eye?? It’s COW, Bridge. Methane-belching and farting, rainforest-destroying, transported-by-carbon-spewing-trucks, industrial slaughterhouse COW.
If global warmening had a face, it would be a cow.
Shame, Bridge, shame.
11:58 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Mica, and it was delicious, cooked medium-rare and so tender it was falling off the bone. There’ll be no membership for me at the Vegan Club, I’m afraid, but I guess if cows are contributing to GW through methane production, at least I’ve contributed to the demise of a single unit…
Iain, you might not have actually said you were a woman but nevertheless you pretended to be one by playing along and not correcting those who presumed you were female. A lie by omission is still a lie, Iain. Imagine all those people chatting with ‘niceperson’ in good faith, thinking she was a lovely housewife, when in reality she looked something like this.
12:08 PM
M. Barnes said…
Bridgit – do you have proof that Iain Hall is a convicted criminal?
Anything at all?
Or is this yet another leftist smear and sneer?
12:56 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
As best as I can recall that allegation was made by ‘Bourbon Boy’, Iain’s own pet stalker, whose blog is now closed. I’ve never seen any evidence that Iain has any kind of criminal record, nor have I claimed that he has.
1:11 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, you and your friends making sexist assumptions does not make Iain a liar.
2:45 PM
Anonymous said…
I knew your dishonesty would come to haunt you Bridgit.
2:55 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Fair go, it’s not like I’ve pretended by a lawyer – or done anything I’ve had to appologise (sic) for…
3:16 PM
Anonymous said…
I just read through Hall’s link. Bridgit, or whatever you name is, you are a complete psychopath. You are actually scary.
3:47 PM
alex said…
“I just read through Hall’s link. Bridgit, or whatever you name is, you are a complete psychopath. You are actually scary…”
Yeah, I’m a bit concerned too. I thought Bridgit was just another grods loon – but better than most. Hell, I enjoyed observing her feisty counterattacks on Beck’s blog here, and I was even a little – dare I say it – admiring, though I strongly disagreed with her.
But for Bridgit to rant and rave about Beck’s alleged “Anonymites”, when she herself is guilty of creating an entirely new persona (including a different sex, no less) just so she can troll on other people’s blogs – well, that’s a bit rich. An online nom de web is one thing, but hiding or altering your identity over and over just to slip past the moderator – for years – is another entirely.
And the fact that she seems to know all about Iain’s personal life, including certain numbers with special attached meanings, what pornography he (allegedly) enjoys, the contents of his Hotmail inbox, etc, is just plain scary.
Note – this is not a defence of Iain Hall or any of his past actions.
4:51 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Indeed it isn’t, Alex, but you shouldn’t read too much into that stuff posted by Hall. Once of his common practices is to send his ‘adversaries’ unsolicited e-mails goading them into a long-winded exchange about who’s right and who’s wrong. He then publishes the whole thing online, adding his own slant. Hall can be fun to needle and sometimes I play along, as I did here. Other times I just ignore him.
The only suggestion I make is that you take anything Hall writes or suggests with a grain of salt, if not a whole cupful of the stuff. He’s quite adept at editing and selective quoting to make himself out to be Saint Iain, all-round good guy and victim of heartless lefty bullies.
5:53 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
This article at Encyclopedia Dramatica recounts the full exploits of Iain Hall, which I can’t be bothered repeating here. He naturally denies it all but it’s well referenced and the quotations are legitimate.
5:56 PM
Anonymous said…
Like I said, psychopath.
6:20 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Yeah, look out fake-lawyer, I might come after you next, Wolf Creek-style. You’d make a good head-on-a-stick.
6:28 PM
J F Beck said…
Betcha every single reader of this thread has changed and strengthened his passwords.
6:38 PM
Anonymous said…
Sorry, I don’t get the fake lawyer reference?
7:30 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Too late for you, Beck, my Romanian associates and I have already cracked your password (‘hornyloewey02′, nice touch).
7:53 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, I wouldn’t joke about that stuff. Seeing that your email chain with Iain appears to confirm that one of your more marxist commentators hacked into Iain’s email and stole information. And yet he appears to still be welcome to post comments on your blog and your friends blogs. So really, not something to joke about.
5:12 AM
alex said…
“This article at Encyclopedia Dramatica recounts the full exploits of Iain Hall, which I can’t be bothered repeating here…”
Yeah, okay, Bridgit. As I said, I’m not defending anything he’s done. And that link has not taught me anything that I didn’t know already.
But if the email exchange between you and Iain that he documents is accurate (and I haven’t seen you deny it), then you’re not much better. A little less creepy, perhaps, but still bordering on the ‘stalker’-side of things. Knowing the contents of his Hotmail inbox, for example, or what pornography he enjoys, or repeating to him numbers that (apparently) hold a special meaning, just to show him he’s being ‘watched.’ What’s the difference between that and the obsessive behaviour that you so rightly deplore in Iain?
Which are you – pot or kettle?
6:15 AM
ARIII said…
alex,
If true, those actions certainly amount to stalking.
As Beck suggests, its probably best to ignore her until she finds someone else to rant at.
9:57 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Alex, it’s true that Iain’s e-mail account and blogs were hacked and information from them was passed around amongst a circle of people. Yes, this was wrong and yes, I use some of the info to rib him in this e-mail exchange. It’s not at all nice, I agree.
Then again, unlike Iain I have never suggested that I am ‘niceperson’. I claim no moral high ground when it comes to serving up to him what he has previously delighted in serving up to others: offering bounties for identities, contacting employers, accusing individuals of professional incompetence, attempting to incite identity fraud, feeding personal info to slimeballs like Andrew Landeryou, mocking those with depression, laughing heartily at marriage breakups, and so on, and so on, and so on.
10:02 AM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit,
You’re a fool. Hacking an email account is illegal and if you were involved you’ve just opened yourself up to all sorts of crap should someone contact the police.
Really, who gives a shit what someone else has done. All you’ve done is degraded yourself and lowered your standards less than the person your complaining about. That’s not something to be proud of.10:48 AM
ARIII said…
No wonder Jeremy Sear is cutting himself off from these nutters.
As a Barrister he would have a lot to answer for if it came out that he was involved in any way in the hacking of private email accounts as part of some stupid internet feud.
10:48 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
I see we’ve moved from “someone hacked Iain’s e-mail” to “Bridgit and Jeremy were involved in the hacking of Iain’s e-mail”. What exactly is your evidence for these potentially defamatory allegations?
11:42 AM
Anonymous said…
“Yes, this was wrong and yes, I use some of the info to rib him in this e-mail exchange. It’s not at all nice, I agree.”
Using information obtained illegally is itself illegal. Bridgit, I’d be hoping that Iain never goes to the Police with any of this stuff.
11:43 AM
Anonymous said…
“I see we’ve moved from “someone hacked Iain’s e-mail” to “Bridgit and Jeremy were involved in the hacking of Iain’s e-mail”. What exactly is your evidence for these potentially defamatory allegations?”
What allegations? Bridgit, you’ve admitted that you’ve used information obtained from Iain’s email account without his permission.
Jeremy hasn’t used that information from what we know. The statement from ARIII was simply that no wonder Jeremy is moving to distance himself from your crowd, if this is what they get up to. The point that ARIII was making was that he would not want to be unwittingly mixed up in this type of stuff (you know, if someone was to email him the contents of someone else’s email system).
Go back and read the comment, you see no-one is suggesting at all that Jeremy is involved in any of this stuff. In fact, the imputation is the exact opposite of that.
11:48 AM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
You boast that THR hacked my email and blogs and YOU admit that there was group of you who shared the spoils of that crime right here in this comment thread ARIII does not even suggest that Jeremy had anything to do with it. You are trying to apply spin here because you have publicly admitted criminal behaviour.11:49 AM
Anonymous said…
I wonder how THR squares hacking people’s accounts (if true) with his claimed marxist ethics?
11:52 AM
Anonymous said…
When I first checked out the Random Brainwave comments thread that is linked to above (the one with Bridgit’s comment) – I’m pretty sure that the first Iain Hall comment linked to Iain’s home page. It now goes to the idiotic ED page.
If I’m right on this, what nasty piece of work changed the link across?
12:17 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
It’s already been put to you elsewhere, Iain, that THR did not ‘hack’ your e-mail, though he admits to having accessed it.
As for “using information obtained illegally”, where and how has it been “used”? I mentioned Iain’s apparent porn fetish in private correspondence, which he himself chose to publish. None of the other stuff mentioned by me came from his e-mail account.
You folks are pretty high and mighty on the subject of hacking. Especially considering that when it happened to Jeremy, the most stringent condemnation that Beck could muster was that he used insecure passwords and was “whining” about the whole thing, while one of your number in comments accused him of making the whole thing up.
12:20 PM
Iain Hall said…
I did not link to the ED page when I commented on Chuck’s post that looks like the work Of “John Surname” the administrator of that site.
They are all nasty pieces of work.12:27 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Whereas you, Iain, are as pure as the driven slush.
12:31 PM
Anonymous said…
“It’s already been put to you elsewhere, Iain, that THR did not ‘hack’ your e-mail, though he admits to having accessed it.”
Hacked/accessed it without authorisation. Sorry, what is the real difference? I’m not sure if “hack” has a particular meaning, but certainly most people would use it in this circumstance.
“As for “using information obtained illegally”, where and how has it been “used”? I mentioned Iain’s apparent porn fetish in private correspondence, which he himself chose to publish.”
That is using it. You mention something that came from Iain’s private email system. Just because it is to Iain personally, doesn’t mean that you are not using it.
12:31 PM
Anonymous said…
“Whereas you, Iain, are as pure as the driven slush.”
That may very well be the case, but changing comments by directing people’s homepage to a attack-site like ED is very low, wouldn’t you agree? Simple yes or no answer would suffice.
12:34 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit you are lying once again the first mention of my recieving an email News letter from “Abby Winters” was made by your pal “Fang” here a little while before I made any mention of it in my own blog. Now as to say such a thing would have required knowledge of my private email accounts that must mean that he is one of your fellow accomplices.
12:47 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Anon: no lower than setting up a Nazi-lover site falsely purporting to belong to another blogger, then putting a link to it on your blogroom.
Iain: maybe that was where I saw it then. But as I have said to you before, several times in fact, I have no idea who ‘Fang’ and/or ‘Bourbon Boy’ are, nor do I act in concert with them nor they with me.
While you’re here, would you care to confirm that I e-mailed you several times in the wake of your ‘hacking’ to declare that it went too far and to apologise.
12:53 PM
Anonymous said…
Measuring oneself against a Nazi blogger? Bridgit you shouldn’t set your standards so high.
1:06 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
You’re right – the Nazi blogger was only Iain.
1:13 PM
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1:14 PM
Iain Hall said…
I don’t have a “blog room” Bridgit
How many times did you insist that you did not care about the “Bridgit Gread” blogs
like you do here
and here
and you are lying about first hearing about “Abby Winters” from “fang” because your mention of it in the email chain I linked to earlier was made before Fang’s comment that I cited earlier.1:18 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Whether I care or not is irrelevant: the bigger question is why did you set them up, Iain, and then refuse to admit having done so?
C’mon sport, you’re big on finger-pointing and making accusations of dishonesty. Answer the question about our own incapacity for making honest admissions.
1:25 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
our = your
1:26 PM
Iain Hall said…
No Bridgit the bigger question is why are you still whining about something you so often claimed not to care about.
1:47 PM
ARIII said…
Bridgit,
You obviously believe Iain has done you wrong. If true, that reflects badly on Iain.
However, you have to take responsibility for your own actions. You have beclowned yourself on this thread with your bizarre rants against migrants and men without outside employment (amongst other silly comments). You have also admitted to possibly illegal activities involving Iain’s email account.
These actions reflect badly on you, not Iain. Wouldn’t you rather be seen to be behaving better than someone you dislike so much? Particularly when you also think they are foolish and silly.
2:09 PM
ARIII said…
‘Jeremy hasn’t used that information from what we know.’
Exactly.
However, I would like to apologise to anyone who was offended by my suggestion that Jeremy was displaying common sense.
2:11 PM
Anonymous said…
“However, you have to take responsibility for your own actions. You have beclowned yourself on this thread with your bizarre rants against migrants and men without outside employment (amongst other silly comments). You have also admitted to possibly illegal activities involving Iain’s email account.”
I agree, Iain’s apears to be at fault for making fake blogs etc. However that does not excuse that which you have done here and listed by ARIII above. Particularly because you claim to be left wing and progressive, yet make highly regressive comments (ARIII could have mentioned “rent-boys”). You need to act better than Iain.
Bridgit, what I’d propose is this – simply stop mentioning Iain on your blog and, if you can, stop your co-authors from doing so. Give him nothing to work off. If he mentions you on his blog, you can either respond there or ignore it. Be the better person. I’m sure if Iain sees that you are leaving him alone he will leave you alone. And if he doesn’t, it will just show that you are the better person. This will also allow JF to get his blog back on track.
3:31 PM
Iain Hall said…
Anon at 3.31
What you suggest was supposed to be the basis of the ‘peace deal made after my blogs and Email were hacked but Gread and Co were incapable of keeping their collective word for very long at all even when I steadfastly ignored them and moved on to other topics.
It will therefore be understandable that I am less than optimistic that Gread and her cronies will be any more reliable now.4:49 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
The fact of the matter, Iain, is that you continued to shoot barbs at us on your blog, either by name or implication with your constant reference to “latte-sippers”, “cat-lovers”, etc. Yet you’re not man enough to allow us a right of reply by maintaining an open commenting policy – as Beck does here and as we do at Grods.
10:18 AM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit,
I see that you don’t get the concept of “try to be the better person”. Oh well.
Actually, I am a “latte sipping cat lover”. I’ll use Lattecat as my screen name from now on (one less anon to clog up Beck’s blog).
11:21 AM
ARIII said…
You gave up any claim to a right of reply when you admitted to being party to hacking his email account.
And I don’t know Grod’s commenting policy but I most of your bunch’s blogs don’t have open commenting policies so I would be surprised if you do.
11:36 AM
Sergei Nechaev said…
Isn’t it interesting how Hall has to make every thread about him? Narcissism is the word, I think.
And ARIII, I think Grods does have an open policy, with one or two bannings for fairly specific reasons. In fact, almost every blog that Grods links to also has an open commenting policy. The exceptions may be Jeremy’s blog, and PP, which was much more open prior to Mr Glassjaw calling for the lawyers at ten paces.
11:51 AM
Lattecat said…
ARIII,
Grods is pretty open with commenting. I think they occassionally delete extremely racist comments, but never delete someone just because they don’t like their argument or they are pointing out where Grods made a mistake (unlike others).
11:53 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
ARIII, I gave up nothing because I have admitted nothing of the sort, and your attempt to shut me up by making unsubstantiated allegations won’t work. And you’re also wrong about Grods’ commenting policy: anyone can post there. Now insert your head back into the sand and go to sleep, there’s a good boy.
Lattecat, you’re such a fair-minded peacemaker that should throw off that cloak of anonymity and reveal yourself to the world.
11:56 AM
Lattecat said…
Sergei,
“which was much more open prior to Mr Glassjaw calling for the lawyers at ten paces.”
I have no idea about the details of anything that occurred behind the scences with lawyers, but the incident you referred to related to actual blog-posts posted by (then) PP authors (I don’t get the reference to Mr Glassjaw, I thought it was Ant who put up the post – and in any case, why would he need his own lawyer?).
The comment policy is a separate issue. Seeing that Crikey tends not to have open comments on any blog they host – I imagine this is something you should discuss with Crikey, and not impute to legal action.
My word verification is “rooted”. I normally hate mentions of word verification, but will make an exception here.
11:57 AM
Anonymous said…
“and your attempt to shut me up by making unsubstantiated allegations won’t work”
ARIII can’t shut you up. No one has tried to shut you up. Unsubstantiated? You admitted to making use of information that was obtained from Iain’s email account by someone who accessed it without permission. That seems to be rather substantiated, wouldn’t you? Or are we back to arguing about the meaning of the word “hacked”?
11:59 AM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
Like a lot of pathological liars you forget what you have said before and make yourself look very silly indeed.
12:27 PM
ARIII said…
‘Isn’t it interesting how Hall has to make every thread about him?’
Except he didn’t. But it is interesting how badly you want to smear him.
‘Now insert your head back into the sand and go to sleep, there’s a good boy.’
And yet another bizarre insult.
‘Lattecat, you’re such a fair-minded peacemaker that should throw off that cloak of anonymity and reveal yourself to the world.’
I have to find a thesaurus as I have run out of synonyms for bizarre. Your suggestion is a non-sequitur. And if it is true that Bridgit Gread is not your real name then it is a hypocritical suggestion as well.
12:34 PM
Sergei Nechaev said…
Except he didn’t. But it is interesting how badly you want to smear him.
Wrong, moron. Take a look at the thread, and see how long it took for Hall to turn the conversation to the topic of his alleged victimhood.
Look, Hall is a blue-collar, with right wing views, who also happens to be a bit slow, and for those reasons, I can understand why people might sympathise with him as they would any underdog.
The other side of it is that the giy probably has something wrong with him, maybe a combination of a mild ID and a personality disorder. He has a lot of form when it comes to lying, stalking, etc. He’s created over 40 blogs to attack people. He has boasted abou tmistreating his wife. There are clearly some issues there, and threads such as this are equivalent to telling a tinfoil-hat wearing schizophrenic that the CIA really is trying to steal his thoughts.
12:41 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Hall has never “boasted about mistreating his wife”, that’s just going too far.
Iain, I’m no more a pathological liar than you are a consultant to the editors of the Oxford Dictionary. Like a lot of dilettante stalkers turned moral crusaders, you seem to forgot what you have said before and this makes you look silly indeed.
12:51 PM
Iain Hall said…
Maybe you are right Bridgit “pathological liars” can’t help themselves you could tell the truth but chose not to, which is somewhat worse.
1:00 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
…you could tell the truth but chose not to, which is somewhat worse.
You mean like your “I am not willing to confirm or deny” when asked if you created those fake Nazi blogs?
Get out of the ivory tower, Iain, before you fall and hurt yourself.
1:07 PM
Iain Hall said…
It is often rather telling when someone chooses a Nom de Plume and I would say that the content and tone of “Sergei’s” comments and his choice of name suggests that he is actually the same person who posts as “The happy revolutionary” elsewhere…
which would explain why he is so keen to smear me.1:15 PM
ARIII said…
‘the giy probably has something wrong with him, maybe a combination of a mild ID and a personality disorder’
So? You have no ability to diagnose someone over the internet and the way you are so quick to reach for the insults whenever someone disagrees with you tells me that you probably aren’t the most well balanced person in the world either.
‘threads such as this are equivalent to telling a tinfoil-hat wearing schizophrenic that the CIA really is trying to steal his thoughts.’
That is crap. What a lame attempt to justify the hacking of his personal information and the putrid attacks that you lot have launched against the man.
At least Bridgit admits that she is getting down in the dirt with him.
1:15 PM
ARIII said…
Thanks for that link Iain.
Both the person here and the original seem to be particularly odious people but ‘the ends justify the means’ seems to sum them both up.
1:19 PM
Lattecat said…
Yes, I think THR has said that he often posts under a string of Russian names. I doubt that Sergei would be him though, because to post smears under a different name in order to distract from your own culpability in accessing Iain’s email system without permission would be a new gutless low, even for someone who tries to excuse Stalin on a regular basis.
Bridgit, if THR was posting under the alias of Sergei – I assume that you would denounce him as being immoral uncategorically?
BTW I was anon@11:59.
1:37 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
‘Sergei’ has made comments that are unfounded and inappropriate, and I think they’re uncalled for. Much like the comments made here, which ARIII seems to laughing along with quite merrily. Hypocrisy, much?
As to who ‘Sergei’ is, that is just guesswork on Iain’s behalf, and he doesn’t have a good track record of ‘outing’ pseudonymous bloggers.
1:51 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit,
Which bit of “I don’t think domestic violence jokes are really appropriate” is where “ARIII seems to laughing along with quite merrily”. In fact, I think that is the exact, precise, complete opposite?
2:09 PM
Lattecat said…
Hey, Bridgit. Looking at the ED article. What do you think about the smears there on Hall for working from home and looking after children (calling him Mrs Hallfire). How sexist would you have to be to criticise a family on the basis that the wife works and the husband looks after the children. Do you know who wrote the article? If so, are they that sexist normally?
2:22 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
You really think that declaring a comment about Person X to be “not really appropriate”, while you join in the mockery of Person X, is a sincere effort, Lattecat? Meanwhile, you expect me to “uncategorically… denounce” the comment above? Some of you have spent much of this thread moralising and outlining standards of behaviour, yet it’s interesting to see how you conduct yourselves when the subject turns to domestic violence or to someone’s weight.
And no, I’ve not written a word of the ED article. Much of it was written by someone calling him/herself ‘Fang’ and I don’t have any knowledge of who that person is. But if you want to see examples of sexism then just scroll down to Iain’s views on women: that’s where the good stuff is.
2:28 PM
Lattecat said…
“yet it’s interesting to see how you conduct yourselves when the subject turns to domestic violence or to someone’s weight.”
Weight, not seen that mentioned at all? Considering that I’m on the large side of things, I certainly cannot comment on anyone’s weight and would not do so.
On domestic violence, I was anon@9:10am and the first to condemn the idiot who posted about Keri and Jeremy. Personally, I doubt that the anon there is genuine – I may be wrong, but I would suggest that it is so far wrong, weird and irrelevant that the person who wrote it is either trying to set up this blog (I wonder who would do that?) or is someone who has problems.
The reference to “things that batter” is odd. Who really remembers Downer’s short but controversial stint as opposition leader 15 years ago? It would be as if in 2024 someone was posting about Utegate.
I condemn any mention of Keri – both because she has nothing to do with anything relevant to this or the other thread and there is so many things to say about Jeremy, but his personal life should not be one of them.
2:37 PM
Iain Hall said…
Lattecat
A far better place to appreciate my views of women is actually at my own blog where you will find my opinions unmolested by selective and out of context quoting.
The ED page, which Bridget champions so vociferously is all about skewing everything to make me look bad, my dislike of UHT milk is a good example.2:38 PM
Lattecat said…
“my dislike of UHT milk”
Whoever wrote that ED article has way to much time on their hand. Did you ever find out who Fang was?
2:40 PM
Iain Hall said…
Sadly No I didn’t Lattecat, but I think that he need some serious psychiatric help.
2:46 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Yeah, check out Iain’s post calling for the compulsory sterilisation of women who have multiple abortions – it’s a great bit of libertarian blogging.
And when you’ve done that, check out the 3.32pm comment here and take note of all the condemnation it received the same Beck regulars who have rushed to defend the rights of I. Hall, Citizen Blogger.
2:49 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit,
You refer to a comment that was left up in February 4 months ago. I wasn’t reading RWDB then, so didn’t see it. Keri herself condemns it, on that thread, 4 months ago.
Of course that comment’s wrong. I condemn it. I note you told Scott on the original Grods thread that the RWDB blogpost referenced, that his comments were verging on homophobic. Good on you, they clearly are in very poor taste to the point of being sexist. I’m glad that you do stand up against your friends when they pull sexist stunts like that.
That said, check out the comments thread that Keri put up in response:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4099711&postID=2383257331499286442
While one of the comments were withdrawn – there’s still some awfully nasty comments there about Beck.
3:06 PM
Iain Hall said…
To save you a long search Lattecat she is referring to this postand You should take note of the fact that this is one of the threads where she is pretending to be a man posting as “Mark L”
3:18 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Yes, because Iain bans from his blog those who readily disagree with him. When he’s not concocting fake blogs, that is.
Lattecat, I read through that thread and could find no explicit abuse against Beck, though ‘Jayne’ had a general rant. Much of that thread was occupied with one of Iain Hall’s long-winded claims to victimhood. And I don’t read Keri’s blog but I know enough to know that she doesn’t engage in or encourage wild abuse or insults.
3:35 PM
Lattecat said…
“Godwin’s Law or not, you sound like you’re broadcasting from Nuremberg in the 1930s.”
What an odd way of expressing the comment. Nuremberg was a series of rallies, while no doubt there were radio stations broadcasting from there, it’s really only the films that have entered into the popular conscience.
Bridgit’s mind must be an awfully odd place.
3:37 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit,
“no explicit abuse against Beck”Cosmicjester @1:02 (I’ve censored it by removing the “ucks”):
“it really is f’ing disturbing. dont let the sexless wonders and f’tards bother you”Jayne @3:30 (censored again)
“F’-sticks and knob-jockeys are merely yappy canines with no purpose in life but to be used as fleabag dust-catchers.”That’s nastily homophobic, too, wouldn’t you think? Let’s not play my hurt is worse than your hurt, everyone’s a big boy or girl.
3:42 PM
Iain Hall said…
Lattecat
http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/the-perils-of-late-starts/
http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/a-womans-place-and-happiness/
http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/international-womens-day-and-abortion/
Try these for my attitude to gender equality and work/life issues
Cheers
Iain3:51 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Bridgit’s mind must be an awfully odd place.
No it’s not. Many of the Nazi Party’s major policies were announced in Nuremberg, such as the anti-Semitic laws of 1935.
That’s nastily homophobic, too, wouldn’t you think? Let’s not play my hurt is worse than your hurt, everyone’s a big boy or girl.
Indeed, there are many horrid things said on both sides of the blogosphere.
3:55 PM
Lattecat said…
Iain,
Thanks. I take everything that is said by you by ED with a grain of salt.
3:55 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
So do I, except for all the parts that are established as fact.
5:11 PM
J F Beck said…
The Grods crew and followers are an interesting bunch. They condemn legal action resulting from demonstrably incorrect claims yet are quick to make implied threats of legal action in response to posts they find objectionable, but which are factually correct. Notice that earlier Bridgit was bandying about “defamatory” and “defamatory imputation”. This is a nonsense: “defamatory imputation” is proof of defamation.
On the other hand, the Grodsters have repeatedly called me a stalker, Bridgit joining in by referring to this site as the “house of stalk” or some such. The classic example is this load of hogwash from Ant Rogenous. I have written nothing remotely comparable about anyone, ever.
In the Hall-Gread email exchange linked by Iain above Bridgit levels a threat (12 February, 2009):
“Iain, do you still subscribe to that fortnightly porn newsletter that THR found in your Hotmail account? What was it, Abbey [sic] Winters or something? That would make quite a good topic for a blog post, don’t you think?”
On 23 February a cyptic, out of context comment is directed at Hall at Grods:
“What weird shit are you trying to pull with Keri, Hall? She’s not Abby Winters.”
It’s obviously both a threat and an inside joke; none of the other commenters questions the rather odd Abby Winters reference from Chuck — any guesses who Chuck might be?
And these clowns reckon I’m a stalker for using information freely available to anyone able to use Google.
5:35 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Hall sets up fake blogs purporting to be a member of the Grods crew.
Beck’s response: Nothing.Hall sends off Scotch in exchange for personal info on a Grods regular.
Beck’s response: Nothing.Unknown person hacks Jeremy’s “Anonymous Lefty” blog.
Beck’s response: Tsk tsk – but it was probably his fault for having unsecure passwords. And now he’ll be whinging!Beck pastes together stuff from the web to imply that someone shouldn’t be a teacher.
Beck’s response: “It’s OK – you can Google it all anywayz!”Grods regulars discuss information passed on from Hall’s e-mail account:
Beck’s response: OUTRAGEOUS!! HOW COULD THEY?!?1!!Beck’s moral consistency = Zero, zip, nought, nada.
7:26 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit how is any of that stuff illegal, but for the stunt that your cronies pulled in relation to Iain’s email account. There is no justification ever, under any moral, ethical or legal code for either going into his account or making references to anything anyone found there. Don’t try to change the subject.
8:06 PM
alex said…
Bridgit, Beck’s silence does not imply consent. Iain can look after himself. The only reason we’ve been talking about him so much today is because he (Iain) entered this very conversation to try to set you straight. Otherwise, he barely gets noticed one way or another – unless one of you guys bring him up.
But seeing as we were on the subject anyway, Beck took the opportunity to expose your hypocrisy. It’s not a defence of Iain Hall. It’s a condemnation of your actions.
If you don’t think “Grods regulars discussing information passed on from Hall’s email account” is outrageous, say so. If you do think it’s outrageous, then why did you participate? And why get angry at Beck for maintaining a position that you claim you also hold?
By the way, Google is a free and open search engine. Beck broke no laws in using any information he found there. A great deal of it was freely posted by the grods mob in the first place. Not so with your lefty friends, who hacked into a person’s private email account in order to intimidate him. If you can’t see the difference, well… God bless you.
I like you Bridgit (though I usually disagree with you) because you at least attempt to engage in reasonable debate with the issues over here, a rare and shining exception to the rule that lefties are incapable of behaving like adults. But your last post strikes me as merely a childish tantrum: “He did it too [which isn’t true, by the way] – so why should I be punished…?”
8:12 PM
J F Beck said…
Bridgit, you are a hoot.
Hall sets up fake blogs purporting to be a member of the Grods crew.
Not nice.
Hall sends off Scotch in exchange for personal info on a Grods regular.
Not nice.
Unknown person hacks Jeremy’s “Anonymous Lefty” blog.
Beck condemned it.
Beck pastes together stuff from the web to imply that someone shouldn’t be a teacher.
Writer of said posts threatens legal action and also threatens to make public email exchange regarding supposedly defamatory posts but wimps out in both cases. Beck subsequently publishes email exchange to the great embarrassment of threatener.
Grods regulars discuss information passed on from Hall’s e-mail account, thereby possibly making themselves possible accessories to possible criminal activity.
Grodsters beclown selves at every turn.
Bridgit doesn’t get it, and never will.
8:14 PM
Anonymous said…
Er, Hall hacked the accounts of one ‘Janine Aussie’ some time ago.
8:15 PM
Anonymous said…
Who? If true, that’s wrong too. That doesn’t excuse anything, and you know it.
8:27 PM
Anonymous said…
No, it doesn’t excuse anything, but it alters the one-sidedness and lies that have accumulated on this thread.
8:29 PM
J F Beck said…
Also, Bridgit ignores the “Beck is a stalker” nonsense promulgated by Grodsters.
8:33 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Beck condemned it.
…while laying the blame at Jeremy’s feet and complaining about his imminent “whining”. Some condemnation… scathing!
Writer of said posts threatens legal action and also threatens to make public email exchange regarding supposedly defamatory posts but wimps out in both cases.
Defamation actions are expensive and notoriously troublesome. Not taking action with regard to defamation is not “wimping out”. If it is then your mate Blair is also guilty of “wimping out”. Nor does it mean that your post did not have a creepy, sinister agenda.
Grods regulars discuss information passed on from Hall’s e-mail account, thereby possibly making themselves possible accessories to possible criminal activity.
As has been repeated several times now, the hacking of Hall’s e-mail was a step too far. Most of us contacted him afterwards to say as much, as is documented here. Iain is fair game most of the time but this was wrong, as is any remarks about his wife or family.
Also, Bridgit ignores the “Beck is a stalker” nonsense promulgated by Grodsters.
You’re not really a stalker, Beck. There’s one or two other words that are more appropriate to what you do.
10:00 PM
Iain Hall said…
Anonymous said…
Er, Hall hacked the accounts of one ‘Janine Aussie’ some time ago.
8:15 PM
This is bullshit, after “Janine Aussie “closed down her blogger blog I applied to blogger for the URL and I got it, just as anyone can do. That is NOT hacking by ANY stretch of the imagination. and considering the lies she published about me at that blog I subsequently put up a page denouncing her actions.3:47 AM
Anonymous said…
Thanks Beck at 5.35, it’s good to remember how nasty some of the PP/grods group can be. No wonder we havenakt seen much from Ant since.
5:20 AM
Lattecat said…
Why am I not surprised that the allegation against Iain was false? What is with this moral equivalence, anyway? This is the type of argument that leads to a person defending the Soviet invasion of Hungary on the grounds that the Americans did something similar to some unspecified country at some unspecified point in time.
6:51 AM
Anonymous said…
This is bullshit, after “Janine Aussie “closed down her blogger blog I applied to blogger for the URL and I got it, just as anyone can do.
No, you used it to impersonate and discredit her. Or do you deny this too?
7:50 AM
Anonymous said…
Give up Bridgit. The problem with being dishonest is that you get a reputation for it after a while. I don’t know why Ian Hall would think you could commit to any agreement. He would need to rely on your word and we know what that is worth.
8:31 AM
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8:34 AM
Iain Hall said…
Really can those who seek to smear me are getting desperate. The blog page at Janine Aussie’s old URL has been kept private for the last couple of years and it never pretended to still be written by her. Under my ownership the page I created remains as it was two years ago and to dispel the latest false claim I have made it public for a while here
8:37 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Thanks Iain for demonstrating how cracked you actually are.
Tell me, Beck and others, how many of you have raced to claim a Blogger or WordPress blog name that has been abandoned by someone else? How many of you have applied for Blogger and WordPress blogs in the names of your antagonists? How many of you have registered more than 40 different blog names? And your guff about ‘moral equivalence aside, do you accept that this is normal behaviour?
10:53 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Iain, make it a matching set and unlock ‘Flame War Chronicle’ so the good folks here can read your handiwork!
10:54 AM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
it is an artefact of the blogger system that abandoned URLs can be claimed by anyone, that is not the case with wordPress once a WP URL has been used it is no longer available for any other use. Claiming the URL used by “Janine” to grossly defame me and putting up a page denouncing her actions was , and remains an entirely sensible course of action. when having it publicly visible no longer suited me I made it private.
Rather than making public the Flame War Chronicle as you suggest I have made Troll Tales and True visible, for a short time so people can judge for themselves the sort of lunacy that you and your cronies have done to attack me.11:22 AM
Anonymous said…
Why would Hall be “cracked” Bridgit? He isn’t the member of a gang of cyberstalkers, unlike some.
12:44 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit, I’d quit while you are massively behind. You’ve reopened your blog-war with Iain here and you are seriously coming off it the worst. I note that Iain’s had taken down his blogs that show his side of the story, whereas your side is up for all to see at ED. I don’t doubt that you do know who put ED up and I don’t doubt for a minute that you know how one-sided and distortionary it is – despite you saying on this thread:
“This article at Encyclopedia Dramatica recounts the full exploits of Iain Hall, which I can’t be bothered repeating here. He naturally denies it all but it’s well referenced and the quotations are legitimate.”
Why don’t you start behaving like the better person, have the ED article taken down, don’t mention Hall again on Grods and move on with your blogging career? Seriously, this feud overshadows anything else you do. If you move on , then you can ask Hall to take down or make private any blog of his (other than his main one) that mentions you. We’ll hold Hall to task if we think you’ve moved on and he hasn’t.
Hasn’t this blog war gone on for too long already?
12:48 PM
Iain Hall said…
Hasn’t this blog war gone on for too long already?
Hear hear! Lattecat1:00 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Indeed it has.
I began commenting on this thread in response to Beck’s inane post about Jeremy changing one of his links – and then Iain’s pet poodle (Anon@12.38) turns up and starts yarping at me, closely followed by Iain himself. I fire back at his nonsense and Iain starts screaming blue murder, posting and unveiling his old attack blogs, and generally being Iain.
And you reckon I’m reigniting this distant blog war? Gimme a break.
2:56 PM
Iain Hall said…
My God you are desperate Gread
“ Anonymous said…Gread, get on it.
You’re boring.
12:38 PM
You have absolutely no reason to assume that this has ANYTHING to do with me or anyone who posts comments at my blog you are just making this stuff up to cover up the fact that you have been living up to the threat to harass me elsewhere on the net because I won’t have you commenting at my own blog.
It is you that has been so keen to ramp up hostilities but it has blown up in your face and you now look just like the thuggish bully that you so clearly are.3:11 PM
Lattecat said…
“Google-happy Scotch-posting housebound weirdos”.
Sounds like you started it here, yes. In any case, you’ve come out of it much the worse. But you didn’t answer the issue. Why don’t you stop posting in relation to Iain and all this will go away. Do you honestly like being reminded of this ancient history?
3:14 PM
Anonymous said…
Lattecat,
Hall’s ‘niceperson709′ attack blog was getting stuck into Bridgit (among others) before she commented here. Bridgit and others have ignored Hall for months at a time. The favour has never been reciprocated.
4:05 PM
Lattecat said…
“Bridgit and others have ignored Hall for months at a time. The favour has never been reciprocated.”
Come off it. Not a week goes by on Grods without some mention of Iain (whether directly or by one of the nicknames you have for him). ED is always up and is often referred to by people on or associated with Grods (look at the way Randombrainwave changed the link to Iain’s comment to that page). Seriously, no way can you claim the moral high-ground for one side.
4:28 PM
Anonymous said…
Seriously, no way can you claim the moral high-ground for one side.
So why are you doing precisely that with your one-sided condemnation of Gread, and your turning a blind eye to Hall’s extensive history of aberrant behaviour?
4:34 PM
Lattecat said…
“So why are you doing precisely that with your one-sided condemnation of Gread, and your turning a blind eye to Hall’s extensive history of aberrant behaviour?”
Where have I done that? I’m merely pointing out to Bridgit that if she is genuine about seeking the moral high-ground, she has the opportunity to stake a claim to it by becoming the better person.
Although, let’s face it, only one side has admitted that someone’s email account was accessed without permission and that information found there has been used and publicly aired. If you choose to label Iain as having “an extensive history of aberrant behaviour” without mentioning that, well good on you.
4:42 PM
alex said…
“So why are you doing precisely that with your one-sided condemnation of Gread, and your turning a blind eye to Hall’s extensive history of aberrant behaviour?”
Wow. Must be reading a different thread to the one I’ve been following.
Guess that’s what happens when you only have one eye…
4:43 PM
Iain Hall said…
I tell you what Bridgit, the day that you and your cronies take down the ED page,and get Scott to archive all of the posts about me at Grods is the day that I will believe that you are genuinely putting the long winded feud to bed forever. Until then I have no reason whatsoever to believe anything that you say when you suggest that you want to put all of this business behind you.
6:33 PM
Anonymous said…
Iain, would you accept removal of ED and no more mentions of you on Grods? That might be easier to achieve then taking down all posts on you from Grods. In return you could take down or make private any blogs other than your main blog. If you agree to this, then the ball is firmly in Bridgit and coy’s court.
Lattecat7:16 PM
Iain Hall said…
Lattecat
I have been more than willing in the past to cease hostilities and archive material that is elemental to the feud but My trust in Bridgit and her cronies being willing to do so as well is somewhat less than zero. Any act of good faith, like the removal of the ED page, would go a very long way towards making a real peace possible.4:39 AM
Lattecat said…
OK, so we have the first steps. Bridgit, are you willing to have the ED page come down?
6:28 AM
Anonymous said…
I don’t negotiate with cyberstalkers.
7:26 AM
Iain Hall said…
Anon of 7.26
What stake do you have in anything?
7:45 AM
Lattecat said…
Anon of 7.26
“I don’t negotiate with cyberstalkers.”Well, as Iain said, what stake do you have? In any case, the beauty of this approach is that no one is negotiating with anyone (except maybe me). It is a simple action/reward. If ED goes down and the mentions stop, then everyone says that Bridgit’s side has taken a positive step and has taken the moral high-ground. Then Iain will have to take down his extra blogs and stop mentioning Bridgit and co, or look like he is trying to prolong the blog-war. Simple really and everyone is the winner. We are just waiting on a response from Bridgit. Iain has already said that he will take the first steps, so the ball is in her court.
8:43 AM
Anonymous said…
Gread has already indicated that the ED page isn’t hers. Hall is well aware of this, and so by making an impossible request, he is trying to continue the blog war.
9:02 AM
Anonymous said…
He that deceives me once, it’s his fault, but twice it is my fault.
Ian is trying for thrice.
He should not be negotiating with cyberstalkers.
9:07 AM
Lattecat said…
“Gread has already indicated that the ED page isn’t hers. Hall is well aware of this, and so by making an impossible request, he is trying to continue the blog war.”
The request, originally, came from me, not Hall. The ED page might not be hers, but I’m sure she knows who wrote it (or someone else on Grods will know it).
Again, though, who are you? You sounnd like you have a personal stake in this. Let Bridgit talk for herself.
9:18 AM
Iain Hall said…
Anon of 9.02
Impossible request? what a crock Gread may claim that she is not the author but there is no doubt that one of her cronies is because no one else has any reason to create and maintain the page. If she really wants to end this then it is up to her to do something about it, either take down the page because it is her work or convince the author to do so on her behalf. I want nothing more than to see an end to the constant unjustified vilification I receive from you lot but I am heartily sick of the constant denials of responsibility and the blame shifting that all of you practice when it comes to the crap that you create.
Anon @ 9.07
You can rest assured that I won’t be changing a thing that I post or do until I see something really positive done by the other side.9:19 AM
Anonymous said…
You can rest assured that I won’t be changing a thing that I post or do until I see something really positive done by the other side.
Excuse me? You were saying somethng about ‘moral high-ground’?
9:22 AM
Iain Hall said…
@9.22
Latte cat’s suggestion of seeking higher moral ground is directed at Bridgit and her cronies, frankly although I don’t claim any moral perfection but in the light of my “good behaviour” and lack of good faith from my critics that I am entitled to expect some real concessions before I make any changes myself.9:36 AM
Anonymous said…
Can someone please explain to me the ‘moral high ground’ of gang cyberstalking?
9:37 AM
Lattecat said…
“Can someone please explain to me the ‘moral high ground’ of gang cyberstalking?”
Well, when you stop doing so, you get to claim the moral high-ground. The point of the exercise is not to assign blame for what happened before, but simply to move on so that everyone’s lives are improved.
Realistically, when you set up a blog at Crikey claiming to out poisoinous discourse on the internet and yet are still running a nasty campaign against one person (yes, I know Bridgit’s not part of PP, but others on Grods are), the high ground you can claim may not be that high, but at least it is a step up.
Otherwise Bridgit/Grods and associates will continue to look like they are obsessed with one person and will continue to be called on it.
Once ED goes down, Iain will take down his other blogs and everyone can move on with their lives and pretend this never happenned.
Now then, Bridgit – what’s your response?
9:58 AM
Anonymous said…
Just await Bridgit’s response Latte. She will either ignore, deny ability or refuse.
10:11 AM
Lattecat said…
“She will either ignore, deny ability or refuse.”
I hope not, she sounds reasonable and has expressed willing to move out of the blog-war. I trust that she will see this as an opportunity. Genuinely, it is not an attempt to put down one side. Both sides can come out of it saying they were right all along, for all I care.10:17 AM
Anonymous said…
She isn’t reasonable.
10:28 AM
Anonymous said…
Lattecat, you’re full of shit, and your pathetic moral equivalence is only going to give Hall the encouragement he needs to keep stalking for another few years.
PP has never ‘stalked’ Hall. Grods has never stalkerd Hall either, though the site has had so jokes at his expense. So what. Hall has doxens of blogs that exist for no other purpose than attacking people and disclosing their personal information.
If ‘moral highground’ involves appeasing the sort of pondscum that float around Beck’s blog, then better to the moral highground a big miss.
Hall is perfectly well aware that the ED site is run by a chap called Fang, whose identity is not known. Calling on Grods, Gread, etc to pull down the site is therefore ridiculous. Hall has indicated that he has corresponded with Fang before, so he should approach Fang himself.
If anything, Fang has done the blogging community a great service, by offering a counter-voice to Hall’s revisionism, and empowering the victims of his behaviour.
Hall is yet to amend his ways. He has never issued an apology for his behaviour, which is extensive and disturbing, despite what you morons believe.
In addition, it should be noted that concessions have already been made for Hall. The one attack blog that did exist on the net (by Bourbon Boy, who was not a part of Grods) has been taken down. Unfortunately, this doesn’t seem to have assisted in Hall’s rehabilitation. Hall’s attack campaign has been ongoing since then, and in response, he can only make reference to a couple of incidents against him that occurred in the long-distant past.
So, fuck Hall, and fuck his deluded supporters on this site.
10:35 AM
Anonymous said…
How do you know Bourbon Boy is not part of Grods?
10:42 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
The Grods people have e-mailed each other on a regular basis and speculated on the identity of ‘Bourbon Boy’. None of us knows who he is or was – or if someone does then they’re not admitting it.
As I said before, I have never written a word of the ED page on Iain Hall, so I am under no obligation to ‘take it down’. It’s a wiki page anyway so anybody could remove it – and if someone else did then I certainly wouldn’t be restoring it. Iain himself has tried to edit it: check out the hilarious efforts of ‘Mars Rover’.
You should be aware that there’s a precedent for Hall’s let’s-make-peace crap. Years ago I had a blog post detailing how he and his mate ‘David Tan’, who is still hanging around like lingering halitosis, tried to expose my identity and contact my ‘employer’, only to get both horribly wrong. After a few months I deleted the article in return for Iain deleting his own attack blog – however he never deleted it, he only ‘locked’ it, and it subsequently was called into service the next time he was miffed at something said in anger. Iain Hall + peace treaties = FAIL.
10:54 AM
alex said…
Blessed are the Cheesemakers…
11:01 AM
Lattecat said…
Anon@10:35. Not worth responding too.
“As I said before, I have never written a word of the ED page on Iain Hall, so I am under no obligation to ‘take it down’.”
No, you aren’t under any obligation (that’s the point of this exercise – no-one’s at fault for anything that has happened, just that taking it down is the only way to move forward).
While ED stays up, it continues the war. Take it down and the war ends. No-one said you wrote it, just that it has to be written by someone in your camp.
This “let’s-make-peace crap” is not coming from Iain. It’s coming from me and others on this blog who want the war to end and people to move on. It’d certainly make Grods a much more interesting place, PP far less hypocritical, and you would be taken more seriously as a commentator on blogs.
“Years ago I had a…”
That’s the point. Years ago. Let’s move on. If Iain doesn’t respond, we’ll call him on it.Simply, will you have ED taken down?
If you do that, you can say you are a winner and have taken the moral high ground.
Iain will then take down his attack blogs. He becomes a winner too and also claims the moral high ground.
You can then stop mentioning and baiting each other on your respective sites and move on with your lifes.
Everyone’s a winner and the internet is a little bit happier.
So again, what will you do?
11:11 AM
Anonymous said…
Latte the indicators of cyberstalking are:
*Malice
*Premeditation
*Repetition
*Distress
*Obsession
*Vendetta
*No Legitimate Purpose
*Personally Directed
*Disregarded Warnings to Stop
*Harassment
*ThreatsThe Bridgit Gread gang ticks all those boxes. That is what you are trying to negotiate with.
11:13 AM
Lattecat said…
Anon@11:13,
I’m trying to work past what’s gone on before. If it doesn’t work out, people will draw their own conclusions about the failure to stop it when given a reasonable opportunity and add it to what they think about the past behaviour of the group.
Basically, I believe in the school of thought that people are capable of being perfected. I’m giving the participants a chance to prove me right.
11:23 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Iain will then take down his attack blogs.
But he won’t, Lattecat, that is the point. Nobody who has had any dealings with Iain in the past trusts him to do anything.
The trouble with Iain is that he operates under this ludicrous assumption that if one person says something about him, then all their associates are to blame. He is unable to recognise the fact that the Grods/PP people are not a bloc who act en masse. Nor are we responsible for rogues and lunatics like ‘Bourbon Boy’ or ‘Fang’ – in fact we have often stood up to them when they have gone too far.
While Iain thinks he’s operating against some grand alliance, and that an attack on him by some idiot somehow implicates us all, then he’s never going to take down his attack blogs.
P.S. Anon@11.13am, do they let you use the Internet to Google big words at your kindy?
11:34 AM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit,
I hear a rumour that the ED page is wiki “so anybody could remove it”. Please show us how.
12:03 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit,
If you don’t want Anon@11:13am to be proved correct, take the first step and see what happens. We’ll call Iain on it if he doesn’t comply (trust me on that). You don’t have to trust Iain. You just have to do it and see what happens. Why don’t you give it one last shot?“While Iain thinks he’s operating against some grand alliance, and that an attack on him by some idiot somehow implicates us all, then he’s never going to take down his attack blogs.”
Well, if that is your attitude, nothing will ever change. But, let’s face it, Grods/PP/Randombrainwave/THR etc. are an alliance. Anyone can see that from reading your blogs and what you’ve told us about what happens in the background.
There is an organised group against Iain. It’s right there on ED. It’s the constant mentions of him on Grods. It’s the use people have made of private information found in his in-box. You don’t think that Chuck mentioning Abby Winters on Grods and the comment staying up or you mentioning special numbers that are found in Iain’s in-box isn’t evidence of an alliance against him?
Let’s face it. If Scott or you were to put up a post on Grods today saying that Iain is out of bounds, don’t you think that the “some idiots” would immediately stop? Having Grods constantly putting up posts about Iain just fuels the “idiots” who think that they are doing what you want.
Iain is one guy, just leave him be and move on.
12:06 PM
Lattecat said…
Anon@12:03,
You are right. If its a wiki and Bridgit takes it down, that will send a powerful message.
12:08 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
I won’t be taking anything down, Lattecat, and your assertions that it’s somehow my responsibility to do so are getting quite boring. Perhaps Anon@12.03 can do it, if he ever finds the edit link.
I’d be more trusting of your we’ll-hold-Iain-to-account line if you and others posting here were more condemning of his crap – but you aren’t, in fact you’ve studiously ignored the matter all the way through.
12:21 PM
Iain Hall said…
More lies from Gread:
You should be aware that there’s a precedent for Hall’s let’s-make-peace crap. Years ago I had a blog post detailing how he and his mate ‘David Tan’, who is still hanging around like lingering halitosis, tried to expose my identity and contact my ‘employer’, only to get both horribly wrong. After a few months I deleted the article in return for Iain deleting his own attack blog – however he never deleted it, he only ‘locked’ it, and it subsequently was called into service the next time he was miffed at something said in anger. Iain Hall + peace treaties = FAIL.
The truth of what she did is here in her own words I was foolish to fall for her scam in the first instance but had she not decided to “punish me” my calls for her name would have amounted to nothing.12:23 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
I have the runs on the board when it comes to making private all of the old blog war stuff and your team (Scott in particular)boast about not honouring the agreements made in the past, and you have the cheek to say that I can’t be trusted?12:32 PM
Anonymous said…
Thank you for proving me right Bridgit.
12:35 PM
Lattecat said…
Bridgit:
“I won’t be taking anything down, Lattecat, and your assertions that it’s somehow my responsibility to do so are getting quite boring. Perhaps Anon@12.03 can do it, if he ever finds the edit link.I’d be more trusting of your we’ll-hold-Iain-to-account line if you and others posting here were more condemning of his crap – but you aren’t, in fact you’ve studiously ignored the matter all the way through.”
Well, then, we’ll just judge you accordingly. You’ve had a chance to move on. We’re not condemning you for what has happened (other than maybe the stunt with Iain’s email account), we’re offering you a chance to move on. It’s not your responsibility, but your opportunity. You are tired of my calls over 3 days? How tired you must be of this blog-war then. Yet you don’t want to take the opportunity to move on.
Likewise we are not condemning Iain for what he’s done (it’s called a blog war because both sides are at fault). However if you want to cede the moral high ground to Iain, then by all means, carry on your pointless feud. Iain’s made peace overtures. You won’t accept them. Currently that makes Iain the better person.
It’s tough, moving on, but why don’t you let go?
12:35 PM
Anonymous said…
The truth of what she did is here in her own words I was foolish to fall for her scam in the first instance but had she not decided to “punish me” my calls for her name would have amounted to nothing.
So it’s Gread’s fault that you accused her of being a (real-life) tv journo and started sending emails to the tv station, in an effort to out her?
This is the warped mind we’re dealing with, folks, and that’s what the moral equivalence brigade keep trying to forget.
12:35 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Yes Iain, and I quite happily deleted that post years ago because it was embarrassing for you and because you later promised to also delete your own attack blog. But you never did, did you? Another promise broken.
I have the runs on the board when it comes to making private all of the old blog war stuff
Only because you’re sat at home all day with the time to archive and catalogue it all. Some of us have got better things to do, quite frankly. Commenting here takes me a minute at a time – but how long did it take you to put together those attack blogs you’re now opening up for inspection?
Iain’s made peace overtures. You won’t accept them. Currently that makes Iain the better person.
Lattecat, you’re either one of Iain’s chums or you’re living in cloud cuckoo-land. Either way, I’m fast losing interest in your points-of-view.
12:38 PM
Lattecat said…
Thanks for the Trollwatch link Iain. It’s good to note how long this has been going on and how pointless the causes are now. Who cares about Jeremy’s identity? It’s long out of the bag. Hating on someone for setting up their own blog when they are stopped from posting on another blog is quite lame.
It’s time to put all that behind. I understand, Iain, why you won’t take down your blogs when ED is up there. Particularly because you are blogging under your own name, whereas Bridgit is blogging under an alias. I also appreciate that you’ve taken down or made private your old blogs that document yourside of the story.
Bridgit’s been given the opportunity to move on, but won’t take it. Iain, after a few days – will you make private again those blogs you’ve re-opened up this week? It’d be a gesture, even though one that is, apparently, unlikely to be reciprocated.
12:43 PM
Anonymous said…
Latte, you can’t make a moral appeal to the dishonest.
12:55 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
I like how Lattecat downplays what Hall has done in the past, sympathises with his ‘predicament’, places all the onus on others to act while placing none upon Iain, then declares Hall to be “a better person”.
You didn’t make a trip to Munich in 1938 by any chance, Lattecat?
1:05 PM
Tito said…
I for one applaud the good work of this ‘Fang’ chap, in educating society about the perils of blogging. I do believe, however, that the ED site should be taken down. This should occur after Mr Hall has been thoroughly rehabilitated, and has demonstrated that he no longer poses a risk to the blogging community.
1:07 PM
Lattecat said…
“You didn’t make a trip to Munich in 1938 by any chance, Lattecat?”
Ah. No. How odd. I thought you were opposed to calling people Nazis? Or is it only when you are called a Nazi?
1:22 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Well since you aren’t willing to actively condemn people who portray others as Nazis, I assumed that you were OK with it…
1:28 PM
Iain Hall said…
Latte cat
I thank you very much for trying and you are right to suggest that I make private once again the blogs I have opened to support my argument here. That was always my intention anyway.
Bridgit
Since when does the target of internet bullying have any obligations to do anything?
None the less I have offered to achieve public “attack” blogs and to once again ignore you lot.
As Latte Cat has pointed out the whole thing about “moving on” is that you have to let go of the issues of the past. I’m prepared to do so and you are not.
Tito
methinks you protest to much1:36 PM
Anonymous said…
Does anybody else find it odd that Lattecat thinks the entire Grods crew needs to engage in some sort of moral pissing contest with Ian Hall? I mean, it’s like asking Obama to prove his moral worth by ‘making peace’ with Kim Jong Il.
It’s been approximately 18 months since the ED site was last altered, and over 12 months since Hackgate. In that time, there has been no unduly bad behaviour toward Ian by anybody. Yes, there has been the occasional joke, but if jokes make you a monster, then everybody, this siteowner included, is guilty as charged.
In the meantime, amidst this longstanding state of truce, Ian has continued to post on his sites which are purely attack blogs. He has continued to make personal reference to individuals, and to post photos of perceived enemies. Finally, he has recently been trying to stalk enemy bloggers via facebook.
As far as I can see, one side has already made its peace, while the other side hasn’t. It’s your move, Hall.
1:42 PM
Tito said…
Tito
methinks you protest to muchA couople of brief points, Mr Hall:
1. You have the quote wrong.
2. You are using it in a context where it doesn’t make any sense.I suggest you master contemporary English before attempting to take on poetry of the Elizabethan and Jacobean eras.
In the meantime, I see you are closing down your troll blogs. Oh well. Fangs for the memories.1:45 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Since when does the target of internet bullying have any obligations to do anything?
This is what it always boils down to with you, Iain, “I’m being bullied… it’s so unfair”.
Grow up, for Christ’s sake, and take some responsibility for your actions. If you could own up to some of the crap you’ve done, admit that it was wrong and apologise, then we could all move on. But while you play the hard-done-by innocent, stalked and harassed by a cadre of teh evil Left, you’ve got Buckley’s chance.
1:51 PM
Lattecat said…
“Well since you aren’t willing to actively condemn people who portray others as Nazis, I assumed that you were OK with it…”
Bridgit, I don’t know what I did to you to warrant being called a Nazi.
Calling someone a Nazi is completely beyond the pale in normal discussion, as is using an allegation of homosexuality as an insult. You’ve complained of being called a Nazi on this thread. It’s wrong (I’ve called Iain on it up thread somewhere). But the exercise was not to condemn anything but to move on.
There’s lots of stuff in ED that’s just as bad as being called a lesbian Nazi. That’s why I asked for it to be taken down. In turn, Iain will take down the pages that refer to you as a Nazi. Everyone wins!
But you are refused to do so. I still maintain treating you as a reasonable person was a worthwhile exercise. Oh well, if I’m just going to be called a Nazi – I probably should have tried with less beligerant sides. Maybe Korea…
1:51 PM
Lattecat said…
Tito, is that another reference to a communist revolutionary? Are you trying to hide it by going with a yugoslavian rather than Russian?
Bridgit. Can’t you see that:
“Grow up, for Christ’s sake, and take some responsibility for your actions.”
Is just what I have been asking for? Oh well.Anon @11:13 – looks like you might have been proved correct. It may be pointless reasoning with Bridgit and co.
Bridgit, you’ve given Iain the perfect opportunity now to point to this thread and show how you were given an opportunity to move on and did not take it. Iain, feel free to do so.
1:56 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Bridgit, I don’t know what I did to you to warrant being called a Nazi.
I didn’t call you a Nazi; I likened you to someone who famously appeased someone who couldn’t be trusted. They are two different things.
There’s lots of stuff in ED that’s just as bad as being called a lesbian Nazi. That’s why I asked for it to be taken down. In turn, Iain will take down the pages that refer to you as a Nazi.
There is equally bad stuff on ED, I agree. I have also said numerous times that I didn’t write the material on ED. I have also said that if someone took it down, I wouldn’t give two hoots. There’s nothing Nazi-related for Iain to ‘take down’, since both Blogger and WordPress have both removed his fake blogs – which he has still never admitted to creating.
But you are refused to do so.
Because I’m under no freaking obligation to do so! I didn’t create it, it’s not mine and I don’t even have an ED username. Nor do I intend dancing to your tune, since your views on Iain Hall are highly dubious.
2:01 PM
Tito said…
Lattecat,
How dare you accuse me of sockpuppeting! You’re lucky I’m not Tim Blair, or I’d have a good mind to call Slater & Gordon faster than you can say ‘WB’.
2:10 PM
Lattecat said…
“I didn’t call you a Nazi; I likened you to someone who famously appeased someone who couldn’t be trusted. They are two different things.”
I see, you did. The reference wasn’t absolutely clear, because, after all, there were 2 people at that meeting. You are not covering yourself with glory here, though – as Iain has clearly expressed a desire to genuinely move on.
2:23 PM
Lattecat said…
Ah, Tito. Don’t you see that your comments just make Bridgit look bad? You are not helping. With friends like you, why does Bridgit need enemies?
2:58 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
I’ll dips me lid that you are now, finally being honest that satirical blogs that I made found their mark.But the facts of the matter are that their content was fashioned entirely from your own words,and frankly I felt that there was some poetic justice in selectively quoting your own text in a way that made “Bridgit Gread” look bad. But as I have said before that is not your real name and in law it is impossible to defame or slander a pseudonym.
Now it would be the easiest thing in the world to say “sorry” but I would be lacking sincerity if I were to do so because I enjoyed seeing you squirm and try to pretend that you did not care. But that was literally years ago and you should be grown up enough to let it go by now.Under no circumstances will I ever “apologise” to you nor do I expect an apology from you or any of the Grods crew I just want the crap to stop on a simple quid pro quo basis.
That is the grown up way to do it.
But as long as the ED page remains and you and your pals keep promoting it there is absolutely no incentive for me to cease criticising any of you and as you should have worked out by now I won’t be blackmailed, threatened or bullied into doing anything to suit your pleasure.
So as your bully boy tactics are a failure how about you try some honest dealing just for once?3:55 PM
ARIII said…
‘Tell me, Beck and others, how many of you have raced to claim a Blogger or WordPress blog name that has been abandoned by someone else?’
If that blog was being used to defame me, then maybe I would.
‘do you accept that this is normal behaviour?’
Even if Hall is not behaving normally, this doesn’t justify your hacking of his email account.
No one but your cronies believes that. Why don’t you think about that for a moment rather than continuing to badger us about the evils of Hall.
Your claims about Hall also ring hollow given the rubbish we’ve seen you lot write about anyone and everyone who happens to disagreee with your mob.
5:04 PM
ARIII said…
moral equivalence brigade
There is no moral equivalence. You and your mates were responsible for the hacking of someone’s private email account and have been using that info ever since.
Iain may not be perfect but he hasn’t stooped that low.
5:10 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Now it would be the easiest thing in the world to say “sorry” but I would be lacking sincerity if I were to do so because I enjoyed seeing you squirm and try to pretend that you did not care.
I don’t care, Hall; I have never cared. Anyone with a skerrick of intelligence could see that they were your handiwork. But at least you’ve finally come clean and admitted that (a) you constructed fake blogs to portray someone as a lesbian Nazi (b) your intention in doing so was to upset them, and (c) you’re unable to apologise for it because you take delight in whatever distress you think you might have caused. This is about as honest an admission as I’ve ever seen you make – I trust you feel better for revealing your true colours.
Even if Hall is not behaving normally, this doesn’t justify your hacking of his email account.
Where is your proof that I hacked Iain Hall’s e-mail account, ARIII?Feel free to post it here; we wouldn’t want you looking like a finger-pointing dick.
5:37 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit. In English you and therefore your can take a singular or plural form. You’ve admitted that your crony THR (who may or may not have posted in this thread) accessed Iain’s account without permission and that you personally have made use of that information as have your friends. That is called hacking. He is not specifically saying you persinally hacked. But seriously, can’t you maintain a civil tongue in your head? Surely you were brought up better than that? Lattecat
7:10 PM
Anonymous said…
Does anyone that they’ve decided to bully him and that nothing at all is going to stop them? It certainly reminds me of some vicious schoolyard bullying
7:18 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
I don’t care, Hall; I have never cared.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much, If this was true you would be able to let the perceived slight from my (admittedly cruel) satire go. But your frequent mentions of this now long gone blog here makes you a liar, again.
Anyone with a skerrick of intelligence could see that they were your handiwork. But at least you’ve finally come clean and admitted that (a) you constructed fake blogs to portray someone as a lesbian Nazi (b) your intention in doing so was to upset them, and (c)
Bridgit I have often been asked if I had wrote those blogs and I have always used a pedantic interpretation of the word “wrote” because the words were all yours cut and pasted into a new creation I wrote NONE of it My choice of the colour that those blogs painted “Bridgit Gread” is really of no consequence but I though that painting a Marxist as a Nazi made a certain amount of sense .
you’re unable to apologise for it because you take delight in whatever distress you think you might have caused. This is about as honest an admission as I’ve ever seen you make – I trust you feel better for revealing your true colours.
Sweetie, I’ll explain this in simple terms so that you will understand it: I am entirely capable of apologising but I choose not to because quite simply you do not deserve any apology I do not regret a single moment of anguish (that you claim you never felt anyway) or any other hurt that you felt from those creations (that you likewise deny feeling) It was a war and in war people do hurtful things; you lot “took no prisoners” and neither did I, The difference is that You lot violated the “Geneva conventions” (by hacking my blogs and emails) and I did nothing of the sort. GET OVER IT
4:23 AM
Lattecat said…
If anyone is seriously in doubt about how nasty the Grods and co vendetta against Iain is, you should see Bridgit’s comments here:
http://www.grods.com/post/6903/#comment-42074
““Ignore and it will go away” applies to Iain Hall much like it applies to pubic lice.”
I think this thread is probably over now, we’ve tried our best and it is time to move on. Sorry Iain, that we could not get Bridgit to do the same. Taking responsibility does not seem to be one of her strengths.
8:24 AM
Anonymous said…
Bad things happen to those who oppose Bridgit Gread.
Their emails are hacked.
But Bridgit Gread wouldn’t be involved in that.
Their private lives are publicised.
But Bridgit Gread wouldn’t be involved in that.
Attack blogs are set up to damage their reputations.
But Bridgit Gread wouldn’t be involved in that.
9:38 AM
Royston said…
Lattecat are you Halls wife???
No impossible, she would be at work.
Hall is the douchebag of the internet and you two clowns have been defending him. The bloke just admitted setting up a blog to make some poor sucker look like a Nazi and you are still backing him, you feckless pair of shrivelled testicles.
The ED should remain on line as a clear record of who/what Iain Charles Hall is and I intend keeping it going. Hall can go fuck himself. And you two will probably line up to join him.
Over and out.
11:13 AM
Anonymous said…
Royston it would appear that Hall was merely replying in kind to Bridgit’s various attack blogs.
If Bridgit did that to me what she did to Ian I’d be sure to do unto her what she has done to others.
11:32 AM
Royston said…
Where are her “various attack blogs” you idiot, she doesnt have any “attack blogs”, she just makes fun of Hall at Grods. And rightly so because hes a tool.
Meanwhile Hall has more “attack blogs” than he has brain cells and you say nothing about him. FAIL.
11:36 AM
Anonymous said…
she just makes fun of Hall at Grods
Bad luck Royston.
11:39 AM
Royston said…
So Beck is allowed to make fun of Sear, Lowenstein, etc. and Hall is allowed to make fun of the “latte sippers” but nobody can make fun of Hall or they are “bullies”?
Is Hall giving you sexual favors or something?
11:43 AM
Anonymous said…
Before I respond Royston, are you prepared to concede Bridgit does more that make fun of Hall at Grods?
11:48 AM
Royston said…
OK I will concede that if you concede that Hall is a stalking mutant who tries to identify anonymous bloggers and makes up fake blogs to smear people.
11:53 AM
David Tan said…
Before I respond Royston, are you prepared to concede Bridgit does more that make fun of Hall at Grods?
Yeah, she makes fun humourously, whereas the attempts to do so by Beck and Hall fall pathetically flat.
11:54 AM
Anonymous said…
Heaven forbid someone actually identifies an anonymous blogger. What would you do with one of those Royston?
11:56 AM
Royston said…
I wouldnt stick their picture up on my blog or send emails to their employer. Only a weirdo would do that.
12:00 PM
Royston said…
Hey “David Tan”, Ive seen your name somewhere before. Usually with the word ‘dickhead’ attached.
12:01 PM
Anonymous said…
More sock puppets Bridgit?
12:03 PM
Royston said…
Man you are seriously obsessed with Bridgit, you need to get out and get yourself a REAL woman dude.
12:05 PM
Anonymous said…
What is it with teh left and sockpuppets?
12:13 PM
Catweezle said…
We know that Ian Hall would never resort to using sockpuppets.
12:18 PM
Anonymous said…
Hey Bridgit. Nice friends you have here. Immediately starting with sexist or homophobic insults. How progressive. I also like the implied threats of being added to ED. Bridgit, your friends are a credit to you. Lattecat
12:51 PM
ARIII said…
Lattecat,
I doubt there have been more than two of the Grodsters posting in this thread. Despite the fact that there have been about 10 different names used.
I wonder why they keep coming back. Are they hoping that we will turn around and start applauding them for hacking people’s email accounts and abusing the information they find there?
1:04 PM
ARIII said…
The facts of the matter are that at least one person over at Grods corp (apparently the one who goes by the name of The Happy Revolutionist amongst other names) hacked Iain’s email.
The contents of his personal email account were then forwarded around to a number of people who have repeatedly made this information public. This includes a person who goes by the name of Bridgit Gread amongst other names.
This information appears to have been used to smear Iain and some of the statements appear to imply some sort of threat to disclose the private material if he doesn’t quit blogging.
None of the grodsters appear willing to concede that this behaviour was wrong in any way and appear to believe that their illegal activity was somehow justified.
They appear to be incorrigible, so the only question I have is to what extent was Jeremy Sear, Barrister, involved in the hacking and subsequent dissemination of this information. He was definitely associated with the Grods team having blogged there himself and being associated with the members via his personal blog and via their blog on Crikey. However, his relationship with Hall seems to have improved lately and he no longer appears to be willing to associate himself with the blog as he has changed the link to Grods on his blog.
It would obviously be very damaging for a Barrister to be associated with illegal activity like this.
1:15 PM
Iain Hall said…
Lattecat.
if the latest part of this thread proves anything it is what a bunch of Psycho-nutters I have to contend with. They are just bullies with keyboards.But I have a couple of simple questions for “Royston”:
What gives you the right to act as some sort of internet vigilante?
What is your desired outcome from all of this nonesese?
What stake do you personally have in any of the battles past and why can’t you move on?
1:16 PM
Lattecat said…
ARIII,
I’m assuming that the Royston/Sergei/Catweazle/Tito/Anonymous is one or at most two of the cronies rather than necessarily one of the grods-bloggers themselves.
The multiplicities of blogs (including the ED site) and authors on Bridgit/Grods side is of course one of the key reasons that she can come to this blog and deny responsibility for ending the blog-war or for carrying it on. It also makes it much harder for Iain to know what to respond too. As has been said before, this makes the whole situation reminiscent of a schoolyard group ganging up to bully the unpopular kid.
Further, it also makes them hypocritical in complaining about the number of blogs Iain has (which in anycase all but 1 or 2 seem to be shut or private). I think Sears has more open blogs than Iain, for instance.
1:19 PM
Iain Hall said…
ARIII
I tend to agree that Jeremy has more sense than to be directly involved, he alone amongst this clique actually has something to lose should he be involved in their criminality. and as he himself has had his blogs hacked I think that he is acutely aware just how distressing such a crime actually is top the victim.But I think that the Grods crowd are just like a mob of children who won’t grow up and “Royston’s” tantie here just proves it.1:23 PM
Royston said…
Iain if you think the Grods crowd are a mob of children then you should be careful about sending them scotch which is supplying alcohol to minors.
1:35 PM
Iain Hall said…
Can’t answer my questions eh “royston”, well that is typical.
1:43 PM
Lattecat said…
“Royston”. In order to avoid allegations that you are sockpuppetting. You might want to answer some of the questions that Iain asked you before. Particularly, what stake do you have in this?
1:45 PM
Catweezle said…
Lattecat,
That’s some nice mediation. You want Gread to pull down a site that isn’t hers, whilst Iain refuses to even admit his past mistakes, let alone take responsibility for them. He has also pledged to continue his attacks. You should work for the UN or something.
The facts of Hackgate are as follows:
- It happened over 12 months ago, and nothing similar has happened since.
– Almost all of the Grods crew indicated that they did not approve of such actions.
– Hall’s James Bond style version of events is fanciful, and largely unsubstantiated.
– There is no evidence whatsoever linking the Abby Winters revelations to Hackgate. If Hall has information to the contrary, he should share it. If people assume that Hall spends his days on the internet looking at porn, it may be for reasons other than hackers.
– No personal information about Iain has been shared anywhere. The stuff for which Iain is picked on is readily available online. For instance, see this line:This is a woeful idea , mainly because UHT milk always tastes so bad. Not it is impossible to drink this stuff bad, but burnt and very processed bad.
You can be sure that Beck would pick on Sear or Loewenstein if that mangled the english language like that.
1:54 PM
Anonymous said…
The (cyberstalking) gang is all here.
1:54 PM
Anonymous said…
Please tell us Catweezle which of the grods crew did approve of hacking Hall’s accounts?
2:02 PM
Catweezle said…
Please tell us Catweezle which of the grods crew did approve of hacking Hall’s accounts?
None whatsoever.
Now tell us which of the Beck circle jerk crew approves of Hall’s stalking, bribing people for personal details, enlisting minors to stalk others (such as Bruce E), setting up fake blogs purporting to be from Grodsters, and contacting peoples’ employers?
2:05 PM
Anonymous said…
Almost all becomes all in 11 minutes.
Is dishonesty the common characteristic of Bridgit’s online stalking gang?
2:08 PM
Royston said…
I am the one who hacked Iains hotmail account. It was pretty easy, I only had to guess the name of his favorite porn star and BAM I was in. Just like Jeff Goldblum hooking up to the alien ship on Independence Day.
Mr Catweezle asks some interesting questions that you wankers havent answered as yet. Especially you Lattecat you dripping knob-end. Do you support Iain Halls online activities as listed by Catweezle??
2:13 PM
Catweezle said…
Almost all becomes all in 11 minutes.
I said almost all the Grodsters made statements explicitly disapproving of Hackgate. All did disapprove, however, irrespective of their statements.
Comprehension isn’t your forte, eh, anon?
2:17 PM
Iain Hall said…
” Catweezele
- It happened over 12 months ago, and nothing similar has happened since.
Non repetition of the crime is probably more down to my more secure passwords rather than a lack of will on the part of the hacker.
- Almost all of the Grods crew indicated that they did not approve of such actions.
Their subsequent actions suggest that their platitudes then mean nothing
- Hall’s James Bond style version of events is fanciful, and largely unsubstantiated.
WTF does this mean? I can prove that THR was using my email account because he did so from the same IP adress as he used fro posting comments on the same day, nothing “James Bond” about that
- There is no evidence whatsoever linking the Abby Winters revelations to Hackgate. If Hall has information to the contrary, he should share it. If people assume that Hall spends his days on the internet looking at porn, it may be for reasons other than hackers.
duh WRONG Bridgit Gread makes it clear in the email correspondence linked to earlier in this thread that the “Abby Winters connection comes from illegal access to my email account.
- No personal information about Iain has been shared anywhere.
Wrong again your pal posting as “Royston” cites my middle name which I have NEVER posted online ANYWHERE, and he chooses the Pseudonym because it is my late fathers first name. Need I go on ?
And Like Gread he lies about what my password was it was something much more bland than that.2:21 PM
Lattecat said…
Roys… sorry, let me start again “Catweezle”, you said:
“- It happened over 12 months ago, and nothing similar has happened since.”
Wow, not happened again in over 12 months ago. Boasting about not actively breaking the law for over 12 months. Well, other than continuing to make use of the information obtained without permission (see Bridgit’s email conversations with Iain/other people’s comments at Grods).
You also said:
“- Almost all of the Grods crew indicated that they did not approve of such actions.”That now becomes:
“I said almost all the Grodsters made statements explicitly disapproving of Hackgate”First point, where? Second point, how do you know? Third point, the first statement is not the same as your second statement.
“All did disapprove, however, irrespective of their statements”
Again, how do you know if you don’t have their statements. Are you one of them? If someone hasn’t made a statement, how do you know what they think? Even if they disapprove, why do they continue to host comments on Grods that make use of the information and why does BG admit that she continues to use that information.
Lastly define “Grodsters”. This is one of the problems we have, there are so many hangers on it’s hard to keep track of whos who.
2:25 PM
yb said…
You’re an angry little bugger aren’t you Royston? Perhaps you were dropped as a baby.
Assuming Iain did do all those things listed by Catweezle, then personally I don’t support them and I’d be surprised if anyone did.
However, I don’t think any of you ‘grods’ crew have actually stated here that hacking in to someone’s email is unacceptable. You all seem to think it’s ok. News flash for you…it’s not and no other behaviour excuses it.2:25 PM
Lattecat said…
See. This is the extreme nastiness that is associated with this Blogwar. Bridgit, I know you are reading this. Do you approve of:
(a) one of your mates using Iain’s late father’s name as his username?
(b) revealing Iain’s middle name with absolutely no justification.Come on Bridgit, care to take a stand?
2:29 PM
Royston said…
Iain your password was ‘tracilords04′, dont tell lies because you fantasize over an under age porn star.
As for your middle name well it is quite easily available on line if you know where to look. Like your mate JF Beck says its not stalking if you can find it online.
At least we have something in common, a love of Abby Winters, whos your favorite AW girl Iain?
2:30 PM
Royston said…
Lattecat do you have any evidence that Royston is not my given name? If not then go root a pig. Its not my fault I was given this name.
Upset, comprad;es.
2:32 PM
Catweezle said…
Come on Bridgit, care to take a stand?
Lattecat, you insist that others condemn this and that, when you yourself have repeatedly on this thread turned a blind eye to all of Hall’s bad behaviour. Why shouldn anybody else offer condemnations when you don’t have the cojones to do it yourself?
2:33 PM
Anonymous said…
Sorry if I suspected your honesty Bridgit. You do have a long history of fraud and dealing in stolen property. It is good that you have a new nom de web though.
2:34 PM
Iain Hall said…
“Royston” You are lying either about being the hacker or the password, so you are obviously good company for Greado.
When you cite what the real password was I will believe that you are the hacker.As it stands you are sounding like a bullshit artist wanna be.
BTW I have no reason to lie about what the pass word was because it has of course been changed.2:35 PM
Anonymous said…
And how did you come by this stolen information Royston?
2:36 PM
Lattecat said…
Royston, you were quite happy for Iain to have his full name on this blog. Give us your full name then so we can independently verify that Royston is your given name and I will withdraw my comment happily and apologise for the allegation.
2:36 PM
Royston said…
so anon 2.34 thinks Im Bridgit and Iain doesnt belive Im the hacker, well I guess that means Bridgit isnt the hacker. Or is Bridgit Catweezle and Tito? Or is Iain Anon 2.34 and Lattecat? And is ARIII Napoleon? Oh man I am soooo confused!
Latte my full name is Royston Charles Beck of West Australia.
Getting bored now, laterzzzz.
2:41 PM
Lattecat said…
Catweezle, no-one has not condemned Iain’s behaviour. Look up the thread, if you like. Iain’s trying to move on though. Bridgit and co are not.
Apologies if I didn’t answer your comment at 2:13 as I don’t tend to respond to comments that appear to be written by a 12 year old trying to be dirty. I also note that you are forgetting which screen name you are using. The commment at 2:13 was from “Royston”. It’s a bit hard to keep up for us, so I can understand why you’d make that mistake.
2:41 PM
Lattecat said…
Royston, no-ones suggested that Bridgit was the hacker. She herself has fingered “THR”. We have no reason to doubt her, seeing that she used the information that was found. However, she could of course be wrong as to who did it. Certainly if she is wrong, if I were THR, I’d be having words with her.
2:43 PM
Catweezle said…
Iain’s trying to move on though.
Yes. To more attack blogs.
You’re a dull boy, latte. I’m neither Bridgit nor Royston.
2:45 PM
Iain Hall said…
Will it surprise anyone that my position is now that the net’s easy anonymity is not such a good thing?
2:48 PM
Lattecat said…
“I’m neither Bridgit nor Royston.”
Well, seeing that I’ve not suggested that you are Bridgit, I’m not surprised. It seems odd that you two suddenly get involved at exactly the same time. One wonders why you hide behind a new screen-name? If you are someone who has a stake in it, surely you could tell us who you are (not your real name, obviously, just what screenname you go by normally)?
2:51 PM
Catweezle said…
Why don’t you reveal yourself, Lattecat? I know you comment here and elsewhere under another name, so why the fake name? Again, you ask others to do the things you won’t do yourself.
2:53 PM
Iain Hall said…
Catweezle would you be John Surname by any chance?
Because the style of argument and obsession with my UHT milk opinion seems very familiar.
I have only one public “attack” blog and it has only become active since Bridgit Gread and Surname began to post articles at Grods attacking me and that only recommenced after after I discovered her sock puppet and told her to bugger off.2:54 PM
Catweezle said…
Hall, I won’t be revealing my name. We all know what you do with personal details. Needless to say, I’m not who you’d expect, though given your poor track record of outing people, you should probably expect that by now.
Neither Gread nor Surname ‘attacked’ you at Grods. Even if they did, how does that justify you putting up the photos of various Grodsters on your attack blogs, or linking to them on your main blog?
Neit
2:59 PM
Lattecat said…
Catweezle,
Happy to do so. You go first.
3:01 PM
Iain Hall said…
Lattecat
They are cowards all3:10 PM
Iain Hall said…
Catweezle
lets go through who is in the photos shall we?
John Surname, who’s photo has been published at least once at Grods, Keri James who has her own photos available through a link on her own blog and Scott Bridges who has also published his picture many times.
So the only thing that is “new” is the fact that the photos are not that flattering, as happy snaps often are.
Now despite that post being up for weeks I have not heard a squeak of complaint from Bridges who posted them in the first place. I wonder why?
Oh at Latte cat is not asking for you real name , just the nick you usually post as.3:18 PM
Catweezle said…
Hall,
Believe it or not, you’re not actually Flickr. You have no business hosting photos of Bridges or anyone else, unless you’re a creep.
Do you also have a Bridges shrine at home?
3:20 PM
Lattecat said…
“just the nick you usually post as”
Yes. It makes conversations easier.
3:33 PM
Iain Hall said…
The inclusion of Bridges and Keri was actually incidental to the post which was to show how Gormless Surname was for making a defence of the indefensible Chaser sketch, the fact that Bridges looks like a stunned mullet was a bonus
3:35 PM
Iain Hall said…
Catweezle
Believe it or not, you’re not actually Flickr. You have no business hosting photos of Bridges or anyone else, unless you’re a creep.Well by the same token why do you lot post pictures of me at Grods?
Do you have a shrine to me in your home?3:40 PM
ARIII said…
I don’t think there is any point arguing with the people from Grods.
They are bullies who happily admit to the hacking of someone’s private email account and have happily used (and by all appearances continue to use) that apparently illegally acquired information. Not a one of them seems to have any shame over this and they continue to associate with THR who admits to hacking the account and with Bridgit Gread who admits to using that information.
Like any number of cults they appear to view anyone who raises their ire as being ‘fair game’. We’ve seen this time and again from all the Grods crew and their hangers on. A similar attitude infests the blogs run by Jeremy Sear except there is no evidence that he participated in the illegal activities and even he seems to have tired of the bunch.
They are entirely unrepentant and this can be seen in the way they continue to lie; in the vulgar insults that pepper their writing and in the hopeless manner in which they continue to try to cloud the issue with claims that Iain somehow deserved this.
I have no idea why they think that a bevy of sockpuppets is going to somehow convince us that they were right all along. It doesn’t seem to be something that a sober, non-drugged, moderately intelligent and mentally well adjusted person would think.
4:22 PM
Anonymous said…
ARIII you are right. The key to Giggles A and Giggles B’s attack today is simply this, they wanted to demonstrate that any criticism of Grods and co will be met with massive retaliation. We know your passwords, we know your intimate details even down to your fathers name. Nothing is off limits and we will do anything it takes to shut you up.
Bridgit couldn’t agree to the peace deal discussed here because she is too weak. The others know too much about her and would not let her break ranks like that. She would end up like Iain. At least we have demonstrated how they really operate. They make reasonable people end up wondering how Iain has held out so long against them. I wonder how they square this with their claimed left wing ideals.
7:46 PM
Anonymous said…
I wonder how they square this with their claimed left wing ideals.
Exactly. Because we know all right-wingers are cunts to begin with.
8:31 PM
Anonymous said…
Wow, such big words. Bridgit, is a feminist. How do she square her friends using components of female anatomy as an insult? As a feminist does it bother her? Or does she feel powerless to stop them?
9:06 PM
Ralph Malph said…
Right-wingers believe in personal responsibility. How does every right-wing piss-stain feel about being anonymous on the net? How do they square it with their values?!?1!>?
10:11 PM
Anonymous said…
I think we are taking personal responsibility by protecting ourselves from cyberstalkers like Bridgit Gread and her sock puppets.
10:48 PM
Iain Hall said…
300 comments and The Grodites are shown up for the Cyber-bullies they clearly are.
How is your harassment campaign working for you now Bridgit?
You are further away from being allowed to comment at my blog than you were before and what little credibility you did have is shattered, your true colours revealed.
Result :o)4:37 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
My “harrasment campaign”? I’m not running any such campaign, Iain. If there are other people here on your case then it’s probably because they’re also the victims of your Googling, your picture-stealing, your attempting outings, your fake-blogging and so forth. I post independently, I don’t encourage or invite others to join me; they act as they see fit. That you think there is a “campaign” just reflects your paranoid delusion about why people give you a hard time on the Internet: it’s all their fault, it’s none of yours.
That said, I do not endorse the comments of the person posting as “Royston” and I think that using the name of someone’s dead father to attack them is despicable. “Catweezle” does, however, raise some very good questions which have not yet been answered by you, Lattecat and your mate ‘David Tan’ (I was wondering what rock he’d been hiding under; obviously this is the rock).
9:15 AM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, there is a campaign and you know it. Just look at Grods for evidence. I don’t what qs of catweezle I’ve not answered, but list them and I’ll have a go. Lattecat
9:37 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
Bridgit, there is a campaign and you know it. Just look at Grods for evidence.
Lattecat, if there’s a campaign against Hall at Grods then there’s a campaign against Sear, Bridges and Loewenstein at JF Beck. We have plenty of laughs at Hall’s expense but that’s about it.
10:45 AM
Royston said…
Why does Hall think someone would be desperate to comment on his blog. Ive read his blog, its the rambling of a lunatic who is obsessed with Islam and teh gays. I reckon Iain has gay tendencies and was once knocked back by a gay, which explains his view point.
12:16 PM
Anonymous said…
BG, don’t be silly. You know it goes past laughs, look at the Giggles bros here or the illegal email access idiocy. The best advice we can give you is drop it, leave Iain be and don’t associate with anyone trying to keep it going. LC
12:20 PM
ARIII said…
My “harrasment campaign”? I’m not running any such campaign, Iain.
What a pathetic joke.
You have happily admitted that you are!
12:52 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
When and where, ARIII. I’d like to see you support your wild conspiracies with some evidence.
1:33 PM
Anonymous said…
Bridgit, why are you still engaging with this when you’ve you are never going to move on and that Iain is fairgame for whatever you and your mated through at him? Are you seriously happy to be known as a net bully? Because that’s the reputation you’ll have if you continue going after him. LC
2:00 PM
ARIII said…
Bwah Hah Hah!
You are pathetic Bridgit.
Have you seen this publication, Bridgit?
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/htcb/htcb005.html
2:07 PM
ARIII said…
I don’t think Bridgit thinks she has done anything wrong.
It sounds like the mob mentality at work where outsiders are considered fair game and otherwise outrageous behaviour is normalised.
2:13 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
ARIII, you claimed at 1252am that I once “happily admitted” that I’m running a “campaign” against Iain Hall.” I asked you for evidence of where I said this. What I didn’t ask for was a link on hacking offences.
Show us where I said it, ARIII. We wouldn’t want to think you’re making this crap up.
5:12 PM
Iain Hall said…
Bridgit
You said on Wed 2/11/09 9:57 AM
Don’t worry, eventually I might feel like commenting at your blog (sic) and I’ll just use a sockpuppet. And in the meantime you can expect to score a flogging every time you post something utterly stupid or malicious (which, let’s face it, is almost daily).
BridgitTrue to her word (an unusual thing for this queen of lies) she has subsequently written a string of posts and comments at Grods that disparage me.
Porn king pwnedLet’s all weberloff
Never a cross word…
Payday again for Pauline
Rudd’s Buggery 101All of which have had some part that can be read as an attack on me
That looks like a campaign to me, Just as you threatened in your email.6:39 PM
Bridgit Gread said…
Those posts make fun of you, Iain. Some of them make fun of other people as well. Most of the posts at JF Beck make fun of people too. Many of your posts also make fun of people. I think making fun of people is what a lot of bloggers do.
Now – where did I “happily” state that there was a “campaign” against Iain Hall? Not posts responding to the silly or the inane, but a “campaign”. Either you or ARIII may answer.
7:36 PM
Iain Hall said…
You make me laugh Bridgit, or at least you hypocrisy makes me laugh.
If you do something then you claim that it is “making fun” of someone yet you insist that If I or Beck, or anyone else does the same sort of things to your crew that it is actually a criminal act.
And with that I think I shall retire from this thread as I have some work to do on my car which is going to be a whole lot more fun that continuing to argue the toss with you and your cronies.
Cheers Comrade
;o)5:22 AM
Bridgit Gread said…
OK Iain, don’t hurt yourself. I think I’ll go into town for a couple of lattes and an organic tofu and hummus felafel while I read The Age.
10:39 AM
Why are the IP addresses the same here ?